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Old 09-26-2004, 03:01 AM
trumpman84 trumpman84 is offline
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Default Raising ~3/4 your stack as opposed to going all in.

Something I've noticed in multi table tournaments. Say you have a marginal hand in late position with 4 BB and its folded to you. Something like A6..you need to make a move. Is there any justification to raising 3 BB with the intention of pushing on any flop instead of pushing preflop?

Something I've noticed is that BB will call a LOT more often with bad cards when a short stack goes all-in as opposed to a big stack raising. I see BB call with hands such a T8o and 75s when a short stack goes all in and A6 is not a hand you want to risk all your chips on no matter what the BB would call with (except for A5, A4, T6, 76 etc.)

Just something I've noticed..any justification to it? Seems like it has two benefits....First, it makes the BB who calls all ins with any two lay down more often and two, it give you the added benefit of the BB maybe folding when you push on the flop if he didn't hit.
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:04 AM
fnurt fnurt is offline
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Default Re: Raising ~3/4 your stack as opposed to going all in.

If he's going to outflop you, pushing on the flop will not serve you well. If he's not going to outflop you, then you'd much rather be all-in with a chance to double up if you survive the turn and river, considering you are a short stack.
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:13 AM
trumpman84 trumpman84 is offline
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Default Re: Raising ~3/4 your stack as opposed to going all in.

Good point, but suppose by doing this, you increase the BB's fold percentage. I don't know, but it seems to me a better opportunity to increase my stack about 40% would outway risking it all to double up where your odds are not going to be much better than 50-60%.

I do believe this move would increase BB folds. I know most big-medium stacked BB's see an all-in and say "I have bad cards, but I have all 7 cards to improve if I call."
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