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PP 15/30 Flop Decision
I've been advised to post more hands. Comments appreciated.
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero ??? Pre-flop, I think, is an easy call. The question is, given that I have top pair with a crappy kicker and the 2nd nut flush draw, is it better to call or raise? Does anybody try and check raise the board? |
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Re: PP 15/30 Flop Decision
This is an obvious situation in which I would cap the flop, cap the turn, and if given the oppurtunity, cap the river.
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Re: PP 15/30 Flop Decision
I've been going back and forth on this, but I think I 3-bet.
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I've been going back and forth on this, but I think I 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] wouldn't you like to keep the limpers between you and the raiser around? |
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Re: PP 15/30 Flop Decision
Do you really want those limpers? A hand like 56 might be expensive to play against if they get a 4 and you 2 pair up, I like the 3 bet - EP would have to lay down 56 to 2 more BB cold, yes?
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Re: PP 15/30 Flop Decision
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Do you really want those limpers? A hand like 56 might be expensive to play against if they get a 4 and you 2 pair up, I like the 3 bet - EP would have to lay down 56 to 2 more BB cold, yes? [/ QUOTE ] 56 is not folding on the flop in this game. |
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wouldn't you like to keep the limpers between you and the raiser around? [/ QUOTE ] Part of what I was going back and forth about was how many of the limpers you're actually likely to lose if you 3-bet here. |
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Re: PP 15/30 Flop Decision
I like the 3-bet on the flop myself. I think that (1) you are very possibly in the lead right now, and should get more money in the pot; (2) you are even money or so to improve by the end. This is an excellent flop, IMO: make 'em pay to chase with whatever garbage the middle limpers are playing.
Question is, what to do if you don't improve on the turn? If you 3-bet the flop and check the turn, it could be two bets before it gets back to you. If the turn card is a rag (no straight possible), I'd certainly lead on the turn and call all raises. If it possibly completes the straight, I'd check and call. TSP |
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If the turn card is a rag (no straight possible), I'd certainly lead on the turn and call all raises. If it possibly completes the straight, I'd check and call. [/ QUOTE ] I saw this after I posted the results. Would you have called the betting mayhem on turn with the 2nd nut flush draw? I clearly couldn't get away from it. |
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Re: PP 15/30 Flop Decision
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Question is, what to do if you don't improve on the turn? If you 3-bet the flop and check the turn, it could be two bets before it gets back to you. If the turn card is a rag (no straight possible), I'd certainly lead on the turn and call all raises. If it possibly completes the straight, I'd check and call. [/ QUOTE ] If both limpers fold and the button calls, I would almost always lead the turn, if the limpers call, I would bet the turn unless an ugly card hits. |
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