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Old 08-27-2004, 11:13 AM
Malificent Malificent is offline
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Default Flush draw in the SB

Doing this one from memory, since it was on Pacific Poker $1/$2 - just sat down at the table, so no reads other than the table seemed to be your average passive Pacific table...

UTG+1, MP2, button limp, I complete in the SB with Q6d, BB checks.

[5 SB] Flop: Jd 8s 4d

Checked around to the button who bets. I call with my diamond draw, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds. Does anyone either bet out here or check raise?

[4 BB] Turn: [Jd 8s 4d] Tc

I now have a 1 card gutshot draw to go with my flush draw. I check as does UTG+1 and button bets again. I call as does UTG+1.

[7 BB] River: [Jd 8s 4d Tc] 9h

I've hit my straight and bet. I'm raised by UTG+1. Button folds and I call. Results to come later - I'm mostly interested in my flop play but welcome discussion of all streets.
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw in the SB

stakes? reads?
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw in the SB

Sorry, edited to include stakes and reads (or lack there of) - first real hand post for me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw in the SB

I'd bet the flop.
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:39 AM
LaggyLou LaggyLou is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw in the SB

Warning: my take may be LAG-gy

Acting first with four players behind me, I'll bet the flop here. As I see it, if everyone is weak then betting gives me the chance to win without improving, and if one or two people have a piece then then the bet could well be +EV in and of itself. There are some hands that will call (9T, a smaller diamond draw) that you are ahead of here.

Having checked, when it comes back to me I'm raising. Again, if I get one caller between me and the Button I'm OK, and if they all fold and the Button is weak (say, betting on overcards or middle pair) I could win without improving.

My instinct is to c/r the turn, but given the preflop action I see it as a close call and highly dependent on whether you think the Button is likely to fold if he's been betting a mediocre holding.

I play the river the same way.
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Old 08-28-2004, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw in the SB

Thanks for the advice.

UTG+1 turned over KQo for the higher straight and won. After the hand, I kept thinking that if I had raised the button and forced UTG+1 to face 2 cold, that he might have folded his two overcards, but I didn't know if I was being too results oriented in my thinking...
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Old 08-28-2004, 08:18 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw in the SB

i'd lead the flop, but a c/r is good for the above reason, forcing UTG+1 to call 2 cold on the flop. You have equity with the flush draw.

Calling the river was good. Some may raise and would be wrong.

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