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Old 07-30-2004, 01:04 AM
Ess Why Kay Ess Why Kay is offline
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Default The Official Joe Awada Thread

This guy deserves his own thread. Awesome player. Totally outplayed that douche bag Fishman, but the cards didn't come his way. That beat Scott threw on him was terrible. I felt bad for Awada, but that's the way the cards go.

He also took down that Stud tourney and got his bracelet after all. First place and a 2nd. Not bad. Anybody know if he made other final tables or finished in the money on some other events this year?
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: The Official Joe Awada Thread

www.thepokerforum.com has details about the placings in all events
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:42 AM
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Very impressed by the man. Very classy. He's good for poker.

I really felt for him when he had that beat put on him, especially when Fischman was woopin it up. He certainly deserved better.
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:57 AM
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That guy was sweet, a circus performer turned pro-card player?
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: The Official Joe Awada Thread

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That beat Scott threw on him was terrible. I felt bad for Awada, but that's the way the cards go.

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I hope you're not talking about the AK vs. 55 hand because that's a toss-up pre-flop.

When Fishman actually outdrew Awada on the river, Fishman had nine outs. The draw Fishman had on the river was no different than a flush draw.

I guess you've never hit a nine outer on the river?
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: The Official Joe Awada Thread

if i remember right awada called the on the flop. thus not a coinflip. now not a horrific beat after the board paird on the turn, still it was a suck out.
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:22 AM
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It was hard to tell how many chips were in the pot before the flop and after, by my recollection. May have been a ABC play by both players. I think there was a raise and reraise before the flop, so there may have been only a fraction of the pot left in each other's stacks to bet and call with.
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: The Official Joe Awada Thread

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I hope you're not talking about the AK vs. 55 hand because that's a toss-up pre-flop.


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They moved in after the flop.

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When Fishman actually outdrew Awada on the river, Fishman had nine outs. The draw Fishman had on the river was no different than a flush draw.

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No he had six outs on the flop, then picked up three more on the turn.

pokenum -h ac ks - 5d 5s -- 7s 9c 3d
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7s 9c 3d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Ac 246 24.85 744 75.15 0 0.00 0.248
5s 5d 744 75.15 246 24.85 0 0.00 0.752

Not a huge suckout, but not a flush draw either.

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Old 07-30-2004, 12:02 PM
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No he had six outs on the flop, then picked up three more on the turn.

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That makes nine outs on the river, exactly the same as a flush draw.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: The Official Joe Awada Thread

Repeat: he didn't get the money in on the turn. The money went in when he was 75/25, that's when you establish (IMO) the degree of the beat. This is worse than a flush draw because the money got in when he was further behind then a flush draw.

Using your logic, if AA went all in, and someone with 97 called when the flop came 984. It wouldn't be that bad of a beat if the turn came 6, and then the guy with 97 hit a OESD on the river.

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