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Old 08-02-2004, 05:14 PM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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Default 88 in the blinds.

Two questions really:

1) Anyone NOT bet this flop?
2) Anyone bet the river unimproved and a non-broadway card?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: BigEndian is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">BigEndian raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BigEndian bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BigEndian checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BigEndian bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 6.50 BB, between BigEndian and BB.</font>

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Old 08-02-2004, 05:36 PM
J.R. J.R. is offline
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Default Re: 88 in the blinds.

1) no

1) yes, although maybe not all the time (but when not I am trying to induce a bluff)
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: 88 in the blinds.

nice hand.

1) no.
2) hmmm. i don't know.
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 88 in the blinds.

1) no
2) yes
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 88 in the blinds.

1) Auto bet especially since you raised preflop (correctly).

2) I think it's close. There are just enough worse hands that can call. Anyone with a smaller pocket pair or pairing the river card will call.

Anyone bet the turn? By checking you have pretty much given up as I don't think that you can call.

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Old 08-02-2004, 06:19 PM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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Default Re: 88 in the blinds.

I've been actively looking for ways that might be inappropriate to auto-bet. I agree that normally I auto-bet here and fold to a raise.

I don't like betting the turn, nor do I think not betting guarrantees you have to fold. In fact, I think sometimes you might raise (if last person to act bets, it's worth strongly considering). But if the turn is bet and it comes to you heads up, I think you can call.

I'm also torn about the river unimproved. I think there is value to it - maybe more so if the turn wasn't a 9. But I think there's better value in inducing a bluff. I also think it's one of the few situations I would overcall in.

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