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Old 07-25-2004, 02:59 PM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Limit 8/b hand

I am not sure if I over played this or not -

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Omaha/8 (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Beavis is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Beavis 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (18 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I think my raise here was a bad move, the pot was big, and I had a few backdoor draws - I was actually hoping to lose someone - should have known better.

<font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Beavis bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, Beavis calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (15 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>

Now, picked up a backdoor low, so I figure I am not going to chase anyone out, and I am probably getting quartered, so bet to leave people in.
Beavis checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, Beavis calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Button calls, Beavis calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Wow!

River: (33 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>

Again, I hit the low, but I doubt my AA is good for the high - so lets not lose anyone.
Beavis checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button calls, Beavis calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: 38 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 38 BB, between BB, UTG+1, MP3, Button and Beavis.</font> &gt; <font color="white">High won by MP3 (19 BB). Low won by Beavis (19 BB).</font>

Results below: <font color="black">
Beavis shows As 2c Kd Ad (Low: 6, 5, 4, 2, A | High: one pair, aces).
BB shows 2d Kc 4h Jh (High: two pair, jacks and fours).
UTG+1 shows 3d 2s 2h 8c (Low: 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 | High: straight, six high).
MP3 shows 8d 7h 9h Qd (Low: 8, 7, 6, 5, 4 | High: straight, nine high).
Button shows Js Tc Qs Ac (High: one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins 19 BB. Beavis wins 19 BB. </font>

Probably hard to analyze a hand with players this bad, but any thoughts?
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Old 07-25-2004, 04:26 PM
L0QTiS L0QTiS is offline
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Default Re: Limit 8/b hand

Preflop:
I would tend not to 3-bet in this situation at least not at this limit. With better position, or same hand double suited, sure Am I giving up EV here? . But then, I don't really see that this is a problem with it overall.

Flop:
I would probably check/call. You have nothing but backdoors here but I think pursuing the hand is woth it given the pot size.

Everything else appears to be fine.
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Old 07-25-2004, 09:54 PM
iblucky4u2 iblucky4u2 is offline
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Default Re: Limit 8/b hand

At this limit, it seems that bad players are playing bad hands for any amount of bets. Therefore, your 3 bet is not too bad. I normally would not due to position, but here I say go for it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I would check call the flop and the turn due to the size of the pot and pot odds. On the river, I would probably bet out. While obvious to any conscious player that the nut low is made, probalby the number of callers would be about the same. Should there be a late raise by the high hand, then I would just call.

As you say, the players here are terrible. Look at the hands they called 3 bets pre flop. When you make the nuts, punish them.

PS - I find that players up to 4-8 and even 6-12 will be just as bad. That is what makes low limit O/8 so profitable.
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