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Old 08-08-2004, 06:33 PM
cjmewett cjmewett is offline
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Default 5-5 live hand

Hero in MP with AQo

SB posts $5
BB posts $5
EP1 folds
EP2 folds
Hero ($365) raises to $15
MP2 folds
MP3 folds
CO (~$800) calls $15
Button calls $15
SB calls $10
BB folds

FLOP ($65) Q T 4 rainbow

SB checks
Hero bets $70
CO calls $70
Button folds
SB folds

TURN ($205) Q

Hero checks
CO bets $70
Hero raises all-in to $280 straight
CO thinks for about three seconds and says "I have to call you"
CO calls $210

RIVER ($765) blank

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Old 08-08-2004, 08:19 PM
Ray Zee Ray Zee is offline
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Default Re: 5-5 live hand

yea, he has to be a fool for calling your flop bet, and he has to be a fool for not taking off a free card there. and calling your checkraise which has to be a monster.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:01 AM
cjmewett cjmewett is offline
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Is he still a fool for calling my flop bet, not taking a free card, and calling my checkraise if he's got TT?
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 live hand

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Is he still a fool for calling my flop bet, not taking a free card, and calling my checkraise if he's got TT?

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Why would he say "I have to call you" if he had TT? You were the preflop raiser, surely he doesn't put you on QT or Q4? If he has TT for a boat, he's got to know he's ahead--why would he make that comment? I suppose he might think that you could have QQ for quads...
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Old 08-09-2004, 04:38 AM
cjmewett cjmewett is offline
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Default Re: 5-5 live hand

I have no idea why he said it, but he did. And he turned over TT.

What I'm wondering, basically, is whether there is any way whatsoever to avoid going broke here (considering my short stack and his smooth call on the flop).
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:07 AM
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What I'm wondering, basically, is whether there is any way whatsoever to avoid going broke here (considering my short stack and his smooth call on the flop).

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Once the turn comes, the only way you avoid going broke is by rivering a better hand.
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Old 08-09-2004, 10:43 AM
Ray Zee Ray Zee is offline
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well it still follows then. since he called the way he did he had to know you had a monster. so he had a better one. he certainly wasnt a good player but happen to have a hand.
but right or wrong i dont know him., you played it in such a way as to pretty much get yourself broke if he had a better hand and win little if he didnt. unless he was a fool.
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Old 08-09-2004, 11:05 AM
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ray thanks for all the great posts lately. I am guessing that you like raising the flop with a set of tens, because you want to tie him in before a straight card comes and scares the hell out of him? or is there another reason?

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Old 08-09-2004, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: 5-5 live hand

given your short stack, i bet the turn and dont c/r. he wont bluff enough here i think, and you risk not being able to get all in vs some hands that will sometimes check behind the turn.

if the stacks are bigger, i still bet out, but for different reasons.
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Old 08-09-2004, 11:59 AM
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I wouldn't raise in EP w/ AQ.
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