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Old 07-11-2004, 02:43 PM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default lay it down or call it down?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, Hero ?

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
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Old 07-11-2004, 03:12 PM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: lay it down or call it down?

i'd be inclined to see that river. Raise any J/T, or fold to a river bet if the player ain't batty.

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Old 07-11-2004, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: lay it down or call it down?

You barely have odds to see the river if you know for sure your J and T outs are good.

I dont think it would be a big mistake to call or fold this one.

Hopefully he checks to you on the river for a cheap showdown if you miss.
If he bets into you will have another tough choice.

If I called I would fold the river unimproved against the same player.
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Old 07-11-2004, 03:31 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: lay it down or call it down?

There are 9 BB in the pot. Hero has 6 outs. Unless MP flashes you exactly JT, factoring in the river this is a clear call.

If MP1 called 2 cold, this is a fold, mostly due to your heart outs being dirty. The river is also a fold unimproved.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:48 AM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default Re: lay it down or call it down?

Wow, I am going to hell for this one.

I didn't notice my gutshot outs on the turn (!!!!shiiiit)
I folded, which was a huge mistake.
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Old 07-12-2004, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: lay it down or call it down?

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Wow, I am going to hell for this one.

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Lol

-Sent
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