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Old 07-10-2004, 11:50 PM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default Playing El Diablo

The game is 4-handed at a full table, waiting for suckers. El Diablo has been playing pretty aggressively, but he's no maniac. You've been playing relatively conservatively. You're a 2+2er and he knows that. And he knows you know who he is. So, that's all out of the way. You have KK.

Hero, of course, is El Diablo.

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Preflop:
UTG folds, Button folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

River: (15 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Check or bet the river. If you bet and El Diablo raises, 3-bet or call? Comments on other streets welcomed as well.
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Old 07-10-2004, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Playing El Diablo

Check and call. I'm scared of you. And AQ isn't unreasonable.
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Old 07-10-2004, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Playing El Diablo

Betting the river is retarded wtih a capital R.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:00 AM
Blake Lovely Blake Lovely is offline
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Default Re: Playing El Diablo

check/call

pocket jacks and pocket 10's are possible.
Stop and go on the flop looks pretty scary.
I'm beat way to often to make betting profitable.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:06 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default Re: Playing El Diablo

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Betting the river is retarded wtih a capital R.

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What if you're worried that El Diablo will check behind w/ AK and then mock you mercilessly for checking your top set like a little girl?
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Playing El Diablo

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Betting the river is retarded wtih a capital R.

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What if you're worried that El Diablo will check behind w/ AK and then mock you mercilessly for checking your top set like a little girl?

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Whatever. El Diablo has AK 0% of the time here.

But I'll play along. Let's say in this fantasy world El Diablo does not have AQ. I mock him for the 8BBs he donated on the first three streets, and I remind him of that fact when he heckles me for missing on one measley river bet.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:09 AM
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It's Hero's turn cap that is the most telling. He won't cap with a just a flush draw or a pair and a flush draw. He will cap with AQ (including AsQs). He'll also cap with TT, JJ, and planning to take a free river, KJ and AK.

He's not likely to raise the river unless he has AsQs, so the river bet will usually be +1 or -1. Thinking that against the range of hands Hero would play this way, it will more often be +1, I'd bet into the pretty aggressive devil.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:11 AM
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It's four-handed.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:12 AM
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It's four-handed.

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I'm well aware of this, thank you.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:18 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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It's Hero's turn cap that is the most telling. He won't cap with a just a flush draw or a pair and a flush draw. He will cap with AQ (including AsQs). He'll also cap with TT, JJ, and planning to take a free river, KJ and AK.

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What do you think El Diablo puts you on?

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He's not likely to raise the river unless he has AsQs

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Whoa. You don't think he's going to raise you with any AQ? Really?
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