too passive or just right?

dave44 · #1 10-11-2004, 03:47 PM

Anyone play it differently?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, CO raises, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

btspider · #2 10-11-2004, 03:51 PM

i would play it the same and hope he doesn't have AJ.

EDIT: betting the turn as suggested is better. sometimes I'm too tight in small pots.

Piiop · #3 10-11-2004, 03:56 PM

I would bet the turn.

The PFR's flop check tells me he has overcards, why give him another free shot at hitting one? If the two other players had a pair, they would've bet the turn since everyone checked the flop.

srt19170 · #4 10-11-2004, 04:02 PM

I would have folded PF.

-- Scott

umaga · #5 10-11-2004, 04:05 PM

Once the flop is checked through, I would believe that I have the best hand until someone tells me I don't. I bet the turn, fold to a raise. It is much better to put others in the position of guessing what you have, rather than watching another free overcard appear and hoping it didn't help them.

VTDuffman · #6 10-11-2004, 04:24 PM

Question: Why would you not fold this hand in MP1 with 2 folds already in front of you? I might play this in late position with many limpers, but I would throw this away pf 10 times out of 10 in this situation.

davelin · #7 10-11-2004, 04:28 PM

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Question: Why would you not fold this hand in MP1 with 2 folds already in front of you? I might play this in late position with many limpers, but I would throw this away pf 10 times out of 10 in this situation.

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Huh? With two limpers in front and the blinds, that's five total going to the flop not even including the possibility of those behind you. 10 out of 10 times I make this call.

VTDuffman · #8 10-11-2004, 04:34 PM

*shrugs shoulders* that's why I asked...I guess that's just my weak-tightness showing through (something I need to work on). I'd rather fold here and save my $ for a better hand.

Isn't 22-pretty much dominated by everything?

srt19170 · #9 10-11-2004, 04:40 PM

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Isn't 22-pretty much dominated by everything?

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My feeling exactly. You've got to flop a set to win with 22, so you need 8 callers. Given the chance that you'll get raised behind, I fold it every time.

I know that SSH's tight recommendations are 66 from the MPs, I'm not sure what the loose recommendations are.

-- Scott

davelin · #10 10-11-2004, 04:45 PM

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Isn't 22-pretty much dominated by everything?

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My feeling exactly. You've got to flop a set to win with 22, so you need 8 callers. Given the chance that you'll get raised behind, I fold it every time.

I know that SSH's tight recommendations are 66 from the MPs, I'm not sure what the loose recommendations are.

-- Scott

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For both tight and loose, SSH says call with 66-22 in MP. It's not unfathomable to squeeze out another 4 SB post-flop. Sets are paid off very frequently.