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Old 01-30-2005, 01:45 AM
FeelGoodAboutHood FeelGoodAboutHood is offline
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Default Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

5 handed 2-5 game. I have around $725, Button has a little less. Button thinks I'm a little crazy, has made a few comments about my raises/re-raises. He's a decent player, fairly aggressive, nothing stupid.

I have 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the BB.

UTG limps, Button limps,SB completes, I check.

Flop - K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

SB leads out for $22, I call, UTG folds, Button calls.

Turn - Brick.

SB checks, I check, Button bets $45. SB folds, I raise to $135, Button thinks for a second and minraises it, I call.

River - 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

What's the best play here? Comments on the play throughout are appreciated.
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Old 01-30-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

I'm mixed between check/folding and throwing out a blocking/value bet around 150 and folding to a raise.
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

you drew to a hand where you dont have much bluffing ability against a guy who is already dooubting your hand selection. you got there in probably the best way possible if you thought he had the nuts (or Q9) you would have folded a while ago i hope. push and reload or watch him storm off and stack the chips. you cant fold and he came this far i doubt he has a missed draw or hand he is willing to fold against the crazy guy. if he busts you reload big it doesnt hurt your crazy image to show him this hand. mho. if he does fold well thats great too whatever you do you can hardly have an neg ev here i think. unless he' llhit and run.... or is so nitty youll need a crowbar to get them back.
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:45 AM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

Are you high?
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

push the river the pot is already really big if he is better then you then fine pay him off you put yourself in this spot but with hitting that card i really think you gotta push let him show you a better hand
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:57 AM
FeelGoodAboutHood FeelGoodAboutHood is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

I'm assuming this is in response to me. No, not high, altered mind from working so much today certainly, but not high.

I know the hand is ugly. That's why I posted it. Usually I try and work these ugly hands out by myself, but I decided to make an effort to post some hands and use the valuable resource that is this forum.
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

[ QUOTE ]
I'm assuming this is in response to me. No, not high, altered mind from working so much today certainly, but not high.



[/ QUOTE ]hes talking about the turboweaktightnit who wants you to check\fold... i would push and hope he calls with KJ... if he has the nuts you are going to have to rebuy.
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

I really don't think the villain has KJ here...hero checkraised strong on the turn and was minraised...his opponent really wants a call and I don't think KJ is a hand that is asking for a call on that board.
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:57 AM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw/Double Gutter Out of Position Hand

This was not at all in response to you, as a previous poster has cleared up. This hand is very interesting.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:03 AM
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Default My bad. n/m

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