Call - gutsy or stupid?

bizaff · #1 11-15-2005, 01:13 AM

No real reads (31/0/1 over 20 hands)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) converter

MP2 ($39.50)
CO ($43.55)
Button ($72.55)
SB ($68.40)
BB ($101.65)
UTG ($35.20)
UTG+1 ($103.05)
Hero ($174.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls $1, MP2 calls $1, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, MP2 calls $4, CO calls $4, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($17) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $10, MP2 calls $10, CO calls $10.

River: ($47) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $28.55 (All-In), Hero...?

Can I possibly be ahead here?

srm80 · #2 11-15-2005, 01:20 AM

looks like trip jacks

#3 11-15-2005, 01:20 AM

Why are you betting so little on the turn?

bizaff · #4 11-15-2005, 01:39 AM

I wanted to bet a little more than half pot - will this not a accomplish what a 2/3 pot (~$12) or pot bet will?

#5 11-15-2005, 06:37 PM

Bet more on a draw heavy board if you think you have the best hand.

bizaff · #6 11-16-2005, 12:32 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) converter

MP2 ($39.50)
CO ($43.55)
Button ($72.55)
SB ($68.40)
BB ($101.65)
UTG ($35.20)
UTG+1 ($103.05)
Hero ($174.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls $1, MP2 calls $1, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, MP2 calls $4, CO calls $4, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($17) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $10, MP2 calls $10, CO calls $10.

River: ($47) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $28.55 (All-In), Hero calls $28.55, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $104.10

Results:
Hero has Qh Kh (two pair, queens and jacks).
CO has Th 9c (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $104.10.

I think you're right - there's merit it betting more when I think I have the best hand. I think part of it was not wanting to get checkraised all in on the turn.

Once the last J hit, I checked and just couldn't see him with a jack after the flop and turn, so if I induce I call.

xorbie · #7 11-16-2005, 01:29 AM

Can you explain how it would be that you would get checkraised all in?

bizaff · #8 11-16-2005, 02:59 AM

Someone could choose to slowplay a set. Don't get me wrong, I think that's the incorrect way to play a set on that board, but I still wouldn't like to see a checkraise all in on the turn.

edit: err nevermind the "check" part [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]