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Old 12-10-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Does Villain Have AA or KK often enough to make this a bad call?

This is 4 hands into tonight's 200K special so I have ZERO read on villain. I called without much hesitation as I've been in similar situations where I've doubled up as villain is pushing with TPTK - but never 4 hands in. In fact, I did it two hands into the PP 300+20 this afternoon. Would the better players (one of which I am admittedly yet NOT [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) lay this down?

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG (t1605)
UTG+1 (t1500)
UTG+2 (t1525)
MP1 (t1460)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1520)
CO (t1560)
Button (t1465)
SB (t1525)
Hero (t1340)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">8 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to 50</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (t77.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain bets 50, I pause, raise to 200 and Villain insta-pushes and I call
Turn: (t77.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t77.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: 2865

Villain shows AA. GG NoX
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Does Villain Have AA or KK often enough to make this a bad call?

37.5?
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Does Villain Have AA or KK often enough to make this a bad call?

umm... what the hell happened to this hand history?

if he pushed preflop, I'd instacall
if he pushed on the flop after a small bet, I'd probably call? I dunno, that's tougher imo.
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:48 PM
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First try at the converter, no idea what went wrong.
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:50 PM
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ya I'm going to call his push, I can never make folds like this in tourneys.. I might consider raising the Queens as well preflop, but I also like to play them tricky in SB/BB situations
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: Does Villain Have AA or KK often enough to make this a bad call?

At the beginning there are too many donks to justify laying this down. I let the cards play themselves and I don't over analzye situations, especially in a Party Super. You made the right play... Villian shows ridiculous [censored] alot of the time, along with the occasional KK and AA
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:02 AM
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re-raise preflop. either way, all your money is most likley going in ... and being shippe to villain. it takes a good read to lay this down on the flop, and one i dont make most of the time.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Does Villain Have AA or KK often enough to make this a bad call?

[ QUOTE ]

Villain shows AA.

[/ QUOTE ]

Villain has AA here 100% of the time, and he never has KK.
Don't post results.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:06 AM
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Usually that is my play, but as I have started to play better and at higher levels, I've been getting picked off and put on hands too easily. I've also gotten good hands all in and busted out at the bubble of the FT too many times where if I had called the raise rather than pushing, I think I likely push on through to the FT a few more times. So, it is something I've been working on, usually with at least some degree of success. SO I chose to see the flop first. This was a disaster...
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:09 AM
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Thanks for the advice KneeCo, I am new here, won't post results again. Appreciate it
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