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Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
1 Juan Carlos Mortensen
2 Dewey Tomko 3 Stan Schrier 4 Phil Gordon 5 Phil Hellmuth 6 Mike Matusow 7 Henry Nowakowski 8 Steve Reihle 2002 1 Robert Varkonyi 2 Julian Gardner 3 Robert Perry 4 Scott Gray 5 Harley Hall 6 Russell Rosenblum 7 John Shipley 8 Tony D 9 Minh Ly 2003 1. Chris Moneymaker 2 Sammy Farha 3 Dan Harrington 4 Jason Lester 5 Tomer Benvisitsi 6 Amir Vahedi 7 Young Pak 8 David Grey 9 David Singer 2004 1 Greg Raymer 2 David Williams 3 Josh Arieh 4 Dan Harrington 5 Glenn Hughes 6 Al Krux 7 Matt Dean 8 Mattias Andersson 9 Michael McClain 2005 Joe Hachem 2 Steven Dannenmann 3 John Barch 4 Aaron Kanter 5 Andrew Black 6 Scott Lazar 7 Daniel Bergsdorf 8 Brad Kondracki 9 Mike Matusow |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
It's hard to list 25 out of 45, since the players in the middle are so close in ability. My list of the best players from your bunch is (in no particular order):
Juan Carlos Mortensen Dewey Tomko Phil Gordon Phil Hellmuth Mike Matusow Minh Ly Sammy Farha Dan Harrington Amir Vahedi David Grey Greg Raymer David Williams Josh Arieh Andrew Black |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
mortensen
tomko gordon hellmuth matusow gardner tony d minh ly farha harrington vahedi grey raymer williams arieh krux hachem lester young pak hall rosenblum schrier shipley singer Henry Nowakowski not in that order |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
1. Phil Hellmuth
2. Dan Harrington 3. Mike Matusow 4. Amir Vahedi 5. David Grey 6. Greg Raymer 7. Carlos Mortensen 8. Dewey Tomko 9. Sammy Farha 10. Josh Arieh 11. Phil Gordon 12. Minh Ly 13. Tony D 14. Julian Gardner 15. Al Krux 16. Ralph Perry 17. David Singer 18. David Williams 19. Joseph Hachem 20. Chris Moneymaker 21. Henry Nowakowski 22. Andrew Black 23. Jason Lester 24. Tex Barch 25. Yong Pak |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
I attempted to put mine in order. To me with nine bracelets Hellmuth has to be the top guy. 3 Main Event final tables and years of great, consistent play has to give Harrington the second nod. To make three final main event final tables and have two bracelets and years of solid cash game play Matusow gets the nod.
Vahedi is very tough with his style tournament in, tournament out. David Grey's consistenty and solid play edge him over Raymer, from experience. Back to back deep treks makes Raymer show he is here to stay. Tomko burst on to the scene a little later and his best play may be behind him with the deeper fields. I haven't seen enough from Mortensen for him to be considered a top five player on this list, but top 10 is good for him. Farha and Arieh are very good all around players that could make a case for top 7. Outside of the top 10 it becomes tough. Julian Gardner has had some deep runs in some big tournaments. Tony D is a fearless big game cash game player. Minh Ly is very, very underrated. A top casher. Krux has seen a lot of final tables in his career. |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
By the way my main criteria is years of WSOP tournament play, play in the main event, reputation as a cash game player,etc.
With more emphasis on top play in the last five to ten years at the WSOP. |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
you guys have way too much time on your hands.
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
i don't think it's possible to rank these players. if it's overall poker ability, then hellmuth and ly are probably at the top. if it's just NL tourneys, then i'd say hellmuth and mortenson are at the top of the list. ly is one of the most underrated players in the world.
just comments about various players who will be overlooked or overvalued in lists. tex barch was very impressive this year, as well as andrew black and joe hachem. kondracki we didn't see much of at the final table, but seemed solid. matusow is probably going to be underrated by most readers, too. phil gordon isn't nearly as good as most players will probably put him on their lists. he wouldn't crack the top 25 on my list. david grey is probably one of the top five overall players on this list. |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
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Back to back deep treks makes Raymer show he is here to stay. [/ QUOTE ] Much as I respect Raymer and his game, as far as I know, he has played a fair amount of $1k+ buyin tournaments and has only one other final table appearance, whereas Mortenson has many, albeit i'm sure he has played more, experience should count too. Fossilman would likely agree. Raymer: 07-Jul-05 United States $ 10,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em - World Championship Event 36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 25th $ 304,680 22-Jun-05 United States $ 1,500 No Limit Hold'em 36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 6th $ 119,450 03-Jun-05 United States $ 1,500 No Limit Hold'em 36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 86th $ 3,975 18-Apr-05 United States $ 25,000 Main Event (WPT) - No Limit Hold'em Championship Third Annual Five-Star World Poker Classic, Las Vegas 33rd $ 47,180 05-Jan-05 Bahamas $ 7,800 WPT Main Event - No Limit Hold'em 2005 PokerStars Caribbean Adventure, Paradise Island 32nd $ 13,000 01-Sep-04 United States No Limit Hold'em - Tournament of Champions World Series of Poker Tournament of Champions, Las Vegas 5th 06-Aug-04 Ireland € 5,710 Episode 1 The Gaming Club World Poker Championship (Pot Limit Hold'em), Dublin 4th 22-May-04 United States $ 10,000 World Championship Event 35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 1st $ 5,000,000 13-Apr-03 United States $ 1,500 No Limit Hold'em Championship 2003 New England Poker Classic, Mashantucket 13th $ 3,250 09-Apr-03 United States $ 300 No Limit Hold'em 2003 New England Poker Classic, Mashantucket 14th $ 680 09-Nov-02 United States $ 2,000 No Limit Hold'em 2002 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 9th $ 3,700 27-Oct-02 United States $ 300 No Limit Hold'em 2002 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 3rd $ 12,654 22-Apr-01 United States $ 1,500 Omaha Hi-Lo Split Eight or Better 32nd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2001, Las Vegas 12th $ 5,345 31-Mar-01 United States $ 100 Seven Card Stud 2001 New England Poker Classic, Mashantucket 1st $ 25,560 Mortenson: 21-Jun-05 United States $ 2,500 Omaha Hi/Lo 36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 33rd $ 3,305 18-Jun-05 United States $ 2,500 Limit Hold'em 36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 19th $ 5,145 16-May-05 United States $ 2,000 No Limit Hold'em 2005 Mirage Poker Showdown, Las Vegas 2nd $ 72,844 05-Mar-05 United States Heads-Up No Limit Hold'em 2005 National Heads-Up Poker Championship, Las Vegas 9th $ 25,000 10-Nov-04 Monaco Consolation Tournament 2004 Monte Carlo Millions, Monte Carlo 50th $ 1,000 19-Oct-04 United States $ 10,000 The Doyle Brunson North American No Limit Hold'em Poker Championship 2004 Festa al Lago III Poker Tournament, Las Vegas 1st $ 1,000,000 09-Oct-04 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em Final Day 2004 Festa al Lago III Poker Tournament, Las Vegas 15th $ 3,305 08-Oct-04 United States $ 4,900 WPPA Championship of Poker No Limit Hold'em Championship - Final Day WPPA Championship of Poker, Las Vegas 4th $ 32,125 08-Oct-04 Ireland Final The Gaming Club World Poker Championship (Pot Limit Hold'em), Dublin 16th € 12,022 $ 14,545 06-Oct-04 United States $ 1,455 No Limit Hold'em Shootout WPPA Championship of Poker, Las Vegas 1st $ 16,780 01-Oct-04 Ireland Semi-Final The Gaming Club World Poker Championship (Pot Limit Hold'em), Dublin 8th € 12,022 $ 14,545 19-Sep-04 United States $ 10,000 No Limit Hold'em Final Day 2004 Borgata Poker Open - WPT, Atlantic City 21st $ 18,120 14-Sep-04 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em 2004 Borgata Poker Open - WPT, Atlantic City 13th $ 3,480 28-Aug-04 United States $ 5,000 No Limit Hold'em Championship Final Day - WPT 2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 55th $ 5,000 06-Aug-04 Ireland € 5,710 Episode 1 The Gaming Club World Poker Championship (Pot Limit Hold'em), Dublin 2nd 13-Jun-04 Spain € 2,000 World Heads Up Poker Championships - No Limit Hold'em 4th Annual World Heads Up Poker Championships, Barcelona 3rd € 20,000 $ 24,222 24-Feb-04 United States Main Event - No Limit Hold'em 2004 - WPT Invitational, Los Angeles 9th $ 2,000 19-Feb-04 United States $ 1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em 2004 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 1st $ 117,650 03-Dec-03 United States $ 1,500 Limit Hold'em 2003 Bellagio Five-Diamond World Poker Classic, Las Vegas 16th $ 3,623 01-Oct-03 United States $ 200 Tag Team - Half Hold'em/Half Omaha Hi 2003 Four Queens Poker Classic, Las Vegas 7th $ 142 20-Sep-03 United States $ 5,000 No Limit Hold'em Championship Final Table 2003 Borgata Poker Open - WPT, Atlantic City 4th $ 70,500 23-Jun-03 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em Festa al Lago, Las Vegas 17th $ 1,716 09-Jun-03 Austria € 1,000 World Heads Up Poker Championships 2003 Austrian Masters 2003, Vienna 33rd 09-Jun-03 Austria € 1,000 World Heads Up Poker Championships 2003 Austrian Masters 2003, Vienna 65th 17-May-03 United States $ 5,000 Limit Hold'em 34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 1st $ 251,680 26-Apr-03 United States $ 2,500 Limit Hold'em 34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 12th $ 7,220 23-Apr-03 United States $ 2,000 H.O.R.S.E. 34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 11th $ 3,160 12-Apr-03 United States $ 2,500 No Limit Hold'em 2003 Bellagio Five-Star World Poker Classic WPT Championship, Las Vegas 9th $ 7,820 21-Feb-03 United States $ 10,000 No Limit Hold'em Championship - WPT 2003 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 10th $ 21,355 19-Feb-03 United States $ 1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em 2003 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 7th $ 4,950 11-Dec-02 United States $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'em - Main Event Bellagio Five Diamond Poker Classic - 2002, Las Vegas 8th $ 10,145 09-Nov-02 United States $ 2,000 No Limit Hold'em 2002 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 1st $ 53,280 06-Nov-02 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em 2002 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 17th $ 1,050 06-May-02 United States $ 1,500 No Limit Hold'em 33rd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2002, Las Vegas 4th $ 40,940 14-May-01 United States $ 10,000 Championship Event 32nd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2001, Las Vegas 1st $ 1,500,000 25-Mar-01 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em 2001 Shooting Stars, San Jose 1st $ 44,550 23-Feb-01 United States $ 300 Limit Hold'em 2001 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 1st $ 116,722 11-May-00 United States $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'em 31st World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2000, Las Vegas 7th $ 22,575 |
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Re: Your Top 25 Players from the last 5 Main Event Final Tables
Carlos is in operation kill in the Poker Superstars 2 Challenge. His play has been impressive so far in the pre-lims. I don't really like the guy, but his play has warranted my envy.
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