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River action?
20/40 Foxwoods...same game as the Flop action post. I am on the button just after the 85s SB hand.
6 limpers to me and I limp w/6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] both blinds come along. 8 to the flop for 8SBs: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG bets out, nealy asleep kid calls, 2 others call, I call, a blind calls, 6 to the turn for 6.8BBs: Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] It's checked around. River: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG bets out again, now the asleep-kid wakes up and raises as UTG mutters to his side of the table, "s.o.b., didn't see the spades". Let is be noted: when I was in the BB w/K2 and the flop was raised and cold called, UTG in this hand said, "does everyone have a King??" and called, to show K7s at the showdown. I... <font color="white"> called 2 cold</font> |
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Re: River action...
I think you'll win often enough (20%) to merit throwing in the 2 BB, but I don't think you have a value edge here so I think raising is bad.
The tough question is what to do if it's three-bet and it's one bet back to you. I think you can fold pretty easily if it's three-bet and capped and it's two back to you. |
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Re: River action...
Why didnt you raise the flop?
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Re: River action...
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Why didnt you raise the flop? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not drawing the nuts and I don't like getting 3-bet with a 6-high flush draw. |
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Re: River action...
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[ QUOTE ] Why didnt you raise the flop? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not drawing the nuts and I don't like getting 3-bet with a 6-high flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't that kind of weak/tight? The game is short handed and you are worried about a higher flush draw? Why not raise for a free card.. and if 3-bet, cap for a free card? If you are going to be worried about not drawing to the nuts, I'm not sure why you would limp with this hand. p.s. I know that you are a better player than me, so hopefully you will point out any flaws in my logic here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: River action...
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The game is short handed and you are worried about a higher flush draw? [/ QUOTE ] We took 8 to the flop so we are not shorthanded not sure if this changes your thought process but it needs to be noted. |
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Re: River action?
My gut is telling me to fold. Calling might not even get you to showdown.
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Re: River action...
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Why not raise for a free card.. and if 3-bet, cap for a free card? [/ QUOTE ] If the EP flop better 3-bets, he may knock out the flop callers between making my raise much less profitable. |
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Re: River action...
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[ QUOTE ] Why not raise for a free card.. and if 3-bet, cap for a free card? [/ QUOTE ] If the EP flop better 3-bets, he may knock out the flop callers between making my raise much less profitable. [/ QUOTE ] Only if more than 2 fold though. From the way you described the table, these guys sound like they like to call. If you are not going to raise here for a free card, I'm not sure when you ever would because you always run the risk of the original raiser 3-betting and knocking people out. Do you only raise for a free card when you are also raising to protect/buy outs with something like Axs where you are trying to clean up your ace? |
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Re: River action...
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If you are going to be worried about not drawing to the nuts, I'm not sure why you would limp with this hand. [/ QUOTE ] I'm interested in the answer to this, as well. -McGee |
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