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Old 06-05-2005, 02:26 AM
theredpill7 theredpill7 is offline
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: How do you play bottom set ?

Go find a hand where you stacked someone with a deep stack with bottom set.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:37 AM
imported_anacardo imported_anacardo is offline
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Default Re: How do you play bottom set ?

I tend to get as many chips in the middle with any set as I can, all things being equal. A monotone or three-to-straight flop can present problems, of course, as can an especially tight and/or passive player playing hard enough to make set over set a possibility. Even on a scary board it's often worth calling a reasonably-sized raise or reraise if you've both got deep stacks, since your implied odds of stacking your man if you fill up are good. Can't help but sound the theme again:

1) There aren't hard-and-fast rules. What you know about your man makes a huge difference here.
2) You're laying down a helluva lot of winners. You're telling me that if you call a 4xBB raise in late position with, say, pocket sixes (which you should, occasionally!) from a deep-stacked raiser, and the flop comes A96 rainbow, and you get checkraised / 3bet, you're giving up even half the time? That's absurd. The guy would have to be tighter than Fort Knox for me to lay down. Set over set is RARE. You should NOT fear it.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:57 AM
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: How do you play bottom set ?

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set over set is not rare.

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good luck with poker. If the board has no current striaght or flush possibilities, just assume your set is the nuts and go with it. If you NEVER folded a set on the flop in your life, you wouldn't be giving up too much.
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:10 AM
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: How do you play bottom set ?

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Raise on flop with it and if you get raised back, drop it ?

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Call to see if you hit quads on the turn. Check / fold if you don't.
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: How do you play bottom set ?

You're being results oriented to an extreme. Sets are not bad hands that should be discarded on a possiblity that someone has a higher set. It might have been a bad month for your sets, but if you are pushing them, you should be golden. You have to think about it in the long run, not 4-5 hands that happened counter to normal in a small sampling of hands you've played. People seme to forget when they flop a set and drag down a huge pot, but instead remember intricately in detail everytime they get cracked. I know, when they get hammered you think of only that outcome, but try not too. Think long-term.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: How do you play bottom set ?

I'm hereby giving up on you theredpill. Your weak-tightness and results-oriented thinking just can't be cured. It has to be buried deep in your personality or something.

The last advice you get from me:

Stop playing poker. I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm serious. You just don't have it in you. Nothing to be ashamed of, you can get good at something else. Consentrate on school (I suspect your still attending?), get a normal job and don't look back.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:15 AM
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