I raise PF but.....

jnalpak · #1 10-08-2005, 04:56 AM

villian - VP24%/PFR8

this situation has been happening to me more and more. I go for the steal, i hit the card and then i fold up into calldown mode if i hit sometype of agg.

should i CR him on the turn to see where i stand or my line is good?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, SB :#A500AF(villan)/ calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
villan checks, Hero bets, villan raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
villan bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
villan bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

baronzeus · #2 10-08-2005, 05:04 AM

raise turn

brazilio · #3 10-08-2005, 06:01 AM

Why are you not raising the turn or 3-betting the flop?

jnalpak · #4 10-08-2005, 10:01 AM

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Why are you not raising the turn or 3-betting the flop?

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whats the argument that i should be?

ArturiusX · #5 10-08-2005, 10:05 AM

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Why are you not raising the turn or 3-betting the flop?

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whats the argument that i should be?

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You probably have the best hand here a good portion of the time. Low pocket pairs and QT type hands check-raise this flop. Hands that beat you check-raise the turn.

Get more money in.

deepsquat · #6 10-08-2005, 10:34 AM

we def need more $ in this pot. Id like to know when we would 3bet the flop and lead the turn and when we wait till the turn to raise?

cheers

bnorthro · #7 10-08-2005, 12:35 PM

I think you must 3bet the flop. Villian could think you're trying to steal his blind so he's getting real aggressive with any piece of the board or a pocket pair. You beat any 10 (well, except 106 or 103), and theres 3 overcards that could beat you - make him pay to see those.

I vote 3 bet flop, lead turn.

disjunction · #8 10-08-2005, 01:11 PM

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we def need more $ in this pot. Id like to know when we would 3bet the flop and lead the turn and when we wait till the turn to raise?

cheers

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I don't think about this issue much but I probably do it fairly correctly automatically. Some questions to ask consider:

(1) Will waiting for the turn greatly help your opponent autobet it?
(2) Will your flop 3-bet make him more likely to fold the turn or river with a lesser hand and few outs?
(3) What kinds of draws may he have, and how will your 3-bet affect the way he plays them?

imitation · #9 10-08-2005, 01:23 PM

3-betting the flop makes much more sense against this opponent, they are weak tight, just spew on the flop then watch them call down.