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Old 12-08-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

The villain in this hand is an adept TAG who had just taken a bad beat. His reraise on the button had me stumped as to his range. I have a tight image at this time so it seems like he might want to reraise with air to try and take control of the hand on the flop.

Should I have pushed on the reraise and what is my line after flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t1080)
BB (t3885)
UTG (t1825)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t2885)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1360)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ (t1105)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t90.

Flop: (t345) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

What buy-in is this?
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

$11
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

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The villain in this hand is an adept TAG who had just taken a bad beat. His reraise on the button had me stumped as to his range. I have a tight image at this time so it seems like he might want to reraise with air to try and take control of the hand on the flop.

Should I have pushed on the reraise and what is my line after flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t1080)
BB (t3885)
UTG (t1825)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t2885)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1360)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ (t1105)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t90.

Flop: (t345) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">

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What is the buyin and how do you have these reads on level 2? Do you play vs villain often? Along those same lines, how do you have an "image"? Why is my font red?
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

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$11

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Definitely reraise allin.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

I am sorry we had played with each other heads up on another table around ten minutes earlier. He plays TAG until pushbotting at the later rounds.

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[ QUOTE ]
The villain in this hand is an adept TAG who had just taken a bad beat. His reraise on the button had me stumped as to his range. I have a tight image at this time so it seems like he might want to reraise with air to try and take control of the hand on the flop.

Should I have pushed on the reraise and what is my line after flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t1080)
BB (t3885)
UTG (t1825)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t2885)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1360)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ (t1105)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t90.

Flop: (t345) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">

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What is the buyin and how do you have these reads on level 2? Do you play vs villain often? Along those same lines, how do you have an "i

mage"? Why is my font red?

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Old 12-08-2005, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

Got it, did you win against him HU?
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

Also reraise villain preflop and be prepared to go all in. You may get beat this time. But long term you will make a lot more $$$ than you lose pushing preflop with QQ at the $11s.

I'm dabbling on the $60s now and I still haven't folded QQ preflop yet. But I've been close a couple times, and I was right each time. Still not sure if I ever would fold it against only one opponent, unless I had a read on him as a mega-rock.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

yes my pushbot was more refined than his lol
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: QQ in CO against a reraise by TAG on OTB

I asked the question sort of trying to get a read on the guy. You beat him HU 8 minutes ago, he just got sucked out on or beat. And there you are raising before him. He may be a very frusterated TAG. Where I would normally slow down a hand with QQ and a TAG - you still want to show the hand down IMO - in this case I'd put him more on a AK/AQ type hand than AA/KK. I say fire away.
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