PF Question J9o BB 7:1

toss · #1 11-04-2005, 05:32 AM

MP1 raises AJo+, ATs+, 99+. He play pretty aggressively postflop. One semiloose caller on the button and one very loose passive caller on the SB. Should I call from the BB with J9o getting 7:1? What about JTo?

thesharpie · #2 11-04-2005, 05:43 AM

Fold both, you're too often dominated.

toss · #3 11-04-2005, 07:30 AM

When do you start calling with the offsuite broadways? Is QJo too often going to be dominated?

Nick Royale · #4 11-04-2005, 07:36 AM

I'm calling JTo but not J9 here. The odds against flopping a oesd is ~9:1. ~1.2% of he time we flop a straight and when we flop a gut-shot we'll get the odds to call the flop most of the time. Plus our implied odds is great with 1 very loose and 1 semi-loose player along. We'll often win pretty much money from pfr when we hit our straight since he's likely holding a strong hand. Also JTo only makes nut-straights. Sure the risk of domination is big but sometimes we'll win the pot by only spiking a pair or 2-pair, that's not the reason I'm calling though.

toss · #5 11-04-2005, 07:38 AM

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Also JTo only makes nut-straights.

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Nick Royale · #6 11-04-2005, 07:40 AM

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Also JTo only makes nut-straights.

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#7 11-04-2005, 07:47 AM

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It's in Super System. Damn good book if you haven't read it.

ErrantNight · #8 11-04-2005, 10:47 AM

JTo... oui

#9 11-04-2005, 11:24 AM

I call JTo and fold QJo and KJo

droolie · #10 11-04-2005, 01:13 PM

I call pretty liberally in that spot. We have excellent position to close the action and chase our draws.