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Folding top pair to the turn CR.
Not many hands on this player either, but he seemed pretty passive. Possibly a calling station type. That doesn't mean he can't get creative (or stupid depending on where you sit).
Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 7 BB |
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
I would make this fold live typically, but almost never online. Online there are a number of people who would checkraise any ace in this spot - if you really read him as someone who'd never do this, that's another thing, but it doesn't seem you have a strong read on him. A hand like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or even something like 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is possible. If he has aces up, you have outs. Generally, I probably won't fold this online if I don't know the player well.
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
I would usually call here, sometimes the donkbet is a good hand like AK/AQ/AJ/AT, but completely unconnected with the flop. If he has 2 pair you have hidden outs. And like Jeff says, could be pair+draw combo. I think these scenarios + metagame considerations is enough to often call down in these over-aggressive / tricksy games.
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
Agree this is a call down situation. In addition to possibilities stated by the other posters, you have hidden outs if he has A2 or A4.
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
I understand where you're coming from. On the other hand, it should be pretty obvious I have an ace to this player. And the vast majority of the time, players in these seats aren't folding a top pair hand. His play could have been a move, but it looked to me like he was just getting cute/greedy and I didn't want to pay the 2BB in a small pot to look him up. Am I off base here?
- Jim |
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
Short answer: Are you nuts?
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
Short answer: No.
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
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On the other hand, it should be pretty obvious I have an ace to this player. [/ QUOTE ] You would never call his flop donk once the other guy folds to pop the turn with an overpair? |
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
Sure I would. But I played my hand very much like an unimproved ace would the vast majority of the time.
- Jim |
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Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.
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Sure I would. But I played my hand very much like an unimproved ace would the vast majority of the time. - Jim [/ QUOTE ] Then I don't think you can afford to fold a hand this strong. You're just letting this guy knock you off far too many hands in your range. |
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