Completely lost (a JJ hand)

zuluking · #1 09-20-2005, 05:58 PM

SB is 76/7 and Button is 52/2.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 28.50 BB

#2 09-20-2005, 06:02 PM

I think I fold on the river when it's two bets back to me. Though these guys do seem donk-tacular, and it is a big freaking pot.

milesdyson · #3 09-20-2005, 06:03 PM

well, somewhat disregarding the other decisions in the hand, i think folding the river to SB's check/3-bet would have been wise.

Guruman · #4 09-20-2005, 06:04 PM

looks like the button was waiting on the flush draw that came in on the turn, and sb either had an overpair with a diamond or TT.

The only cards that beat you are the AKQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], but given the preflop action it looks like you're probably facing at least that from one of the two.

Unless they're both as maniacal postflop as they are loose preflop you're probably dead at the river here.

gharp · #5 09-20-2005, 06:04 PM

I play it the same, and hate it just as much as you probably did.

zuluking · #6 09-20-2005, 06:05 PM

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well, somewhat disregarding the other decisions in the hand, i think folding the river to SB's check/3-bet would have been wise.

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Like I said, "Completely lost".

#7 09-20-2005, 06:08 PM

i think im calling the turn and check/folding the river when its 2 back to me

TripleH68 · #8 09-20-2005, 06:13 PM

SB is 76/7 and Button is 52/2.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets...

Let's go back to this point. Why/what is SB betting here?
TP, overpair or a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

Button could have a wider range, but why is his pfr so low?

zuluking · #9 09-20-2005, 06:19 PM

SB only bet his draws and any pair, so I put him on the big [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw at this point. Which makes no sense as to why I kept clicking the CALL button on the river! meh

After 130 hands, button has only raised with AA-QQ and AK.

#10 09-20-2005, 07:54 PM

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SB only bet his draws and any pair, so I put him on the big [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw at this point. Which makes no sense as to why I kept clicking the CALL button on the river! meh

After 130 hands, button has only raised with AA-QQ and AK.

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What is button's AF? Is he passive post-flop until he hits? It looks like he's got the big[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Very painful, this river is.