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Old 11-26-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($61.45)
UTG ($53.55)
Hero ($50)
UTG+2 ($105)
MP1 ($52.51)
MP2 ($47.75)
MP3 ($88.80)
CO ($63.70)
Button ($72.72)
SB ($47)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($6.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG+2 calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $4, SB calls $4, UTG folds.

Turn: ($22.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $66.4</font>.

hero?

Villain was winning a lot pots and talking A LOT of trash, especially after making raises.

was was like 45/7/1.8 over about 100 hands.

edit: it folded to me, not sure if that was clear
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

It fell off the first page, so i thought i'd bump it one time.
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:51 PM
amoeba amoeba is offline
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Default Re: Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

I think nobody is saying anything because we honestly don't know.

it did complete a draw and most o the time this kind of move is not a bluff.

base it on how often you've seen him do this and how he has played 2 pair in the past.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:21 PM
trumpman84 trumpman84 is offline
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Default Re: Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

I call here everytime and I make a full house on the river just in case villain isn't just trying to move me off my "obvious overcards"
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

Getting 2:1 and in light of the read you mentioned, you have to call here. You only need 33% equity to make the call right, and the redraw to a full house provides 20% of that if you really are against a straight.

(No one's mentioned this, but I think it's a non-negligible probability you're losing to 99. Many people slowplay trips to the turn or river, opposing draws be damned. On the other hand, 97 might also be possible, depending on how loosely/wildly Villain plays.)

But the read does sound like the "wishful thinking" I sometimes practice, so you want to be sure that you've really seen Villain push people off of hands by waiting for the turn.
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Old 11-26-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

Bet more on the flop. They'll pay it.
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Old 11-26-2005, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Set faces all in on turn with draw heavy board

I like potting this on flop, and I will call here on the turn given the pot odds, especially with your read.
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