It was a misdeal, but the dealer just wouldn't admit it

Mr. Curious · #1 09-30-2005, 07:21 PM

Watching the $100-200 NL game when the dealer exposes the first card dealt to the button and the button says, "Misdeal." The dealer responds, "No, it is not" and continues dealing the cards, including giving the button two in a row.

When all the cards are out, the button again says, "It is a misdeal. I am not allowed to get two cards in a row."

The dealer again responds that it is NOT a misdeal.

The button then says, "I am asking the floor" and calls the floor over.

The floor comes over and immediately rules that it is a misdeal (the correct ruling).

When the floor leaves, the dealer says, "That's the last time we'll call her over to make a ruling."

Randy_Refeld · #2 09-30-2005, 07:24 PM

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Watching the $100-200 NL game when the dealer exposes the first card dealt to the button and the button says, "Misdeal." The dealer responds, "No, it is not" and continues dealing the cards, including giving the button two in a row.

When all the cards are out, the button again says, "It is a misdeal. I am not allowed to get two cards in a row."

The dealer again responds that it is NOT a misdeal.

The button then says, "I am asking the floor" and calls the floor over.

The floor comes over and immediately rules that it is a misdeal (the correct ruling).

When the floor leaves, the dealer says, "That's the last time we'll call her over to make a ruling."

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That is the rule some places. The more common rule allows the button to get 2 cards in a row.

Mr. Curious · #3 09-30-2005, 07:43 PM

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That is the rule some places. The more common rule allows the button to get 2 cards in a row.

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Randy_Refeld · #4 09-30-2005, 07:57 PM

I guess I should clarify that the dealer was out of line commenting of the floor's decision. I am aware of some places not allowing the button to get two cards in a row, but most places to not have such a rule. I am familiar wiht arguements on both side of it and don't see it as a big deal either way.

bigfishead · #5 09-30-2005, 08:31 PM

it the "two cards in a row" were givin to the button in the middle of the deal rather than the last two cards dealt (1 is the original burn card in otherwords) then it's always a misdeal.

But in most places, when the button gets either of his cards exposed it does not constitute a misdeal and the replacement card is the card that would have been the burn card. The exposed card now becomes the burn card.

So it depends on the house rules.

Photoc · #6 09-30-2005, 10:27 PM

This depends on the room. Where I work, exposed button card is NOT a missdeal. I really wish nits would stop throwing their hands in when I even tell them it's not a missdeal and to continue. Then they proceed to get all huffy and pissed off because they threw away their "pocket aces" without looking at them.

This rule, like too many others, is independant to the room you are in.

Al_Capone_Junior · #7 10-01-2005, 01:55 AM

I'm against the "button can't get two cards in a row" policy because it will slightly increase the frequency of misdeals, when it really makes little difference. However it ain't a very big deal. The dealer's inappropriate comments here were a bigger deal, kick him in the nuts a couple times for me.

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juanez · #8 10-01-2005, 04:02 AM

In Colorado, if the first card dealt to the button is exposed, the dealers replaces it with a card from at least 8 cards into the deck. The exposed card becomes the burn. This way the button does not get "two cards in a row" off the deck and it preserves the order of the board. This is a Division of Gaming thing and not a house rule. It's not a misdeal here.

AngusThermopyle · #9 10-01-2005, 01:43 PM

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In Colorado, if the first card dealt to the button is exposed, the dealers replaces it with a card from at least 8 cards into the deck. The exposed card becomes the burn. This way the button does not get "two cards in a row" off the deck and it preserves the order of the board.

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Please tell me you made a mistake in describing the process.

SpaceAce · #10 10-02-2005, 05:04 AM

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When the floor leaves, the dealer says, "That's the last time we'll call her over to make a ruling."

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Misdeal or not, this is completely unacceptable. I am not what you would call a nit but I would have instantly called the floor back and asked the dealer to repeat for her what he had just told me.

SpaceAce