Should I Even Bet This Flop?

jimdmcevoy · #1 03-04-2005, 02:37 AM

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($76.60)
BB ($74)
UTG ($144.15)
Hero ($252.65)
MP1 ($71.35)
MP2 ($157.35)
CO ($183.50)
Button ($227.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, CO raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero raises to $37, CO calls $25.

Flop: ($77) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $40, CO goes all-in for $146.50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $157

It was after his all in that I looked up his stats, and saw that his PFR was 2.65%, even tighter than me (I probably should have looked this up before betting $40)

So, what do you guys do on this flop with or without this PFR info?

btw after the hand he said he had KK, so I said I had AA [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

MarkL444 · #2 03-04-2005, 05:31 AM

i see where your coming from with wanting to check that flop, but i cant bring myself to say that its a good idea.

jimdmcevoy · #3 03-04-2005, 05:36 AM

Exactly my dilema, I am thinking the correct line is check/fold the flop.

.... but I have KK!!! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

MarkL444 · #4 03-04-2005, 05:40 AM

after more consideration. i think firing off that half pot bet was right. assuming he'll fold TT here? dunno

TheWorstPlayer · #5 03-04-2005, 05:47 AM

Hmm...a total rock min re-raised you preflop. What could he possibly have? Wonder if that is a scary flop for him, too. If he's a good player, I see some definite potential to move him off his hand here. And for what it's worth, I think checking this flop will be scarier to him than betting into him. I would check the flop and take it from there. But I also probably wouldn't have 3 bet him preflop since I am going to be OOP on the flop. I would rather let him have the last aggression preflop so that it is much more natural for me to check it to him on the flop. Your way, you commit yourself to putting $80 into a pot that you are most likely folding on the flop anyways. I would have just called the re-raise preflop and then check/folded the flop most likely although check/raising is a possibility, too, if I think the guy has a shot at laying down AA here.

jimdmcevoy · #6 03-04-2005, 05:50 AM

yah, had I known his stats preflop I wouldn't have 3 bet him preflop.

I heard there's a program that like displays players stats on the table, can this be done for UB tables?