Value bet aces on river?

thesharpie · #1 03-03-2005, 09:23 AM

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 4 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

No real reads. If I bet and get check raised it's a call, right?

einbert · #2 03-03-2005, 09:35 AM

I would probably bet and fold to a raise, unless it's from a strange or tricky player in which case I would call. Against an unknown I would fold though.

I would bet this river everytime.

easypete · #3 03-03-2005, 10:07 AM

This really depends. I look at my opponents c/r% and post flop aggression. If my opponents are aggressive post flop, I would have expected a bet/raise from the Q if they had a Q, so I would feel comfortable betting the river. If my opponents are passive on the flop and turn, but aggressive w/ high c/r% on the river, then I would check behind, but this is very rare. You are good more than 25% of the time here, so a value bet is in order.

Thigh · #4 03-03-2005, 10:14 AM

I keep seeing this, c/r%, when discussing other opponents. Where exactly do you guys find this information? Thanks.

thesharpie · #5 03-03-2005, 10:32 AM

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I keep seeing this, c/r%, when discussing other opponents. Where exactly do you guys find this information? Thanks.

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Poker Tracker. Unfortunately I don't have it yet. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Gonna get it soon. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thigh · #6 03-03-2005, 10:45 AM

I thought that only works on your own hands. How does it calculate other people's hands?

MrWookie47 · #7 03-03-2005, 10:49 AM

PokerTracker imports data from everyone involved in the hand. Once you have a fair number of hands on the villian, you can look him up in PT to check his stats the same way you check yours. Better yet, get the GameTime+ addon and have the stats overlayed on your poker client.