Dumb move?

UTG is calling every sort of high card to the river. Played 25 of 35 and went to the river 20 times. Losing his shirt in the process..

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Whats the right move here?

[newhizzle]

well if you check/call and UTG calls youll be getting the right odds to boat up, as far as the river, if its still 3 way you probably have to fold to a bet UI, but its definately close, i dont know how often you are ahead of MP1 here, but if UTG will be caling on river no matter what, i think you have to fold to a river bet

[Bodhi]

Check-call and hope you boat-up. I might bet the river unimproved if there's a chance MP1 will fold.

[csuf_gambler]

am i the only one who would 3 bet the flop?

[@bsolute_luck]

i don't understand the donkbet on the flop?

[Bodhi]

technically, that's not a 'donk' bet.

Also, isn't top 2 worth a bet?

[Komodo]

Im not a limit player, so take my advice with some grain of salt.
I would 3-bet the flop, check/call turn and check/call river too unless I hit a king or jack there.

[@bsolute_luck]

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technically, that's not a 'donk' bet.

Also, isn't top 2 worth a bet?

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sorry i call a "donkbet" when someone bets into a preflop raiser- here the 3-bettor.

yes it is, but i was just wondering because we're just asking to get it raised behind us and i wouldn't know what to do after that: do they have trips, do they have the flush, is it just a hand like AA[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-

so i don't understand it because i'm wondering what the plan is for the rest of the hand: call down, c/r a non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn, bet out again...?

edit: see Komdo's post for what i thought the reasoning for the.."flop" bet would have been and since we didn't do that, i'm wondering why the "flop" bet.

[Komodo]

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technically, that's not a 'donk' bet.

Also, isn't top 2 worth a bet?

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sorry i call a "donkbet" when someone bets into a preflop raiser- here the 3-bettor.

yes it is, but i was just wondering because we're just asking to get it raised behind us and i wouldn't know what to do after that: do they have trips, do they have the flush, is it just a hand like AA[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-

so i don't understand it because i'm wondering what the plan is for the rest of the hand: call down, c/r a non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn, bet out again...?

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OP said he was a chaser. Seems clear to me to bet and call down such players.

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am i the only one who would 3 bet the flop?

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think its better to wait for the turn to raise since your equity will change dramatically with the turn card. in this example i would c/c turn and c/f river UI against a field of 3. if the turn gets checked thru u can c/c the river as well.