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#1
07-04-2005, 02:45 PM
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Couple of hands, were these the right lines?
No real reads on anyone in either hand.
Hand 1: Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. River: (9.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. Final Pot: 11.75 BB Hand 2: Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.75. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks. River: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, BB calls. Final Pot: 13.50 BB 
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#2
07-04-2005, 03:37 PM
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Re: Couple of hands, were these the right lines?
Hand 1:
I think that this hand was pretty straightforward and that you played it fine. PF raise - good. Flop raise with top pair and backdoor flush draw - good. Turn raise with top pair and flush draw - good. River bet with nut flush - How could you go wrong? LOL. Hand 2: This hand is a bit trickier. The PF raise was fine and the flop bet with top pair and an OESD was obviously correct. The J pairing on the turn, was not a good card for you, as it could have given either of your opponents trips. However as they both showed weakness by checking to you, I would have bet the turn. If you were then check-raised on the turn, I would have called as you still had 8 outs to a straight ([img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] outs might not have been good) and 2 outs to the best possible full-house. On the river, when BB and UTG+1 both woke up to bet and raise after having called the whole way until then, I think that you were correct to fold. HU one of them might have been bluffing, but with 2 players betting and raising I think that it was almost definite that you were beaten.
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#3
07-04-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: Couple of hands, were these the right lines?
These are both interesting hands:
Hand #1 - the turn is close, but I would call this stop & go. Most players won't do this on a flush draw, so most of the time he either has something at least as good as 2-pair, or he has garbage. Since it's very unlikely he has a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw or KQ, he doesn't have many outs if you're ahead; and I wouldn't want to get 3-bet, which can certainly happen on this board. Hand #2 - This is swell. This turn is also close IMO. I'd hate to have to call a C/R here, especially given that our straight draw might only get us a chop if we hit. If nobody raises in front of you on the river, it's an easy call. UTG+1 clearly whiffed on his C/R and you didn't pay him off on the river - good job. I think betting the turn might be the correct play, but my problem then is after you get C/R'd do you call the river bet when the brick hits? I really don't know. How's that for weak-tight advice? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#4
07-04-2005, 04:51 PM
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Re: Couple of hands, were these the right lines?
Hand 1: Perfecto.
Hand 2: You really gotta bet the turn. You're missing a lot of value by letting this check through. You have good outs, even if they have a jack. And they don't usually won't have a jack. River action looks fine.
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#5
07-04-2005, 05:07 PM
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Re: Couple of hands, were these the right lines?
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Hand 1: Perfecto. Hand 2: You really gotta bet the turn. You're missing a lot of value by letting this check through. You have good outs, even if they have a jack. And they don't usually won't have a jack. River action looks fine. [/ QUOTE ]
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#7
07-05-2005, 01:55 AM
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Re: Couple of hands, were these the right lines?
Hand 2
TURN: I would bet. Hand plays differently from there on. I would probably call down a checkraise which might be a mistake. If it were check-raised and check-REraised, I would fold it there. RIVER: Fold looks good. It looks like both opponents wanted to check-raise you on the turn, but you let them down by calling. I would have called one bet, but not a bet and a raise with the possibility of a 3bet and cap. Note: best to stop the action where you want comments on your decision so you don't influence the comments with future betting action or results.
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