KTs on the button

fnord_too · #1 03-04-2005, 03:34 PM

Been pretty much not playing for a while due to the birth of my second daughter. I think I should have checked the turn, since I have to believe that UTG will be calling down at the least and is almost definately ahead (I wish I had thought of that about a second before I did). UTG is good, MP3 is a maniac preflop, kind of passive post flop.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.33 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP3 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.33 BB

TStoneMBD · #2 03-04-2005, 03:36 PM

no reason to call the flop.

zombies kill · #3 03-04-2005, 08:37 PM

when i see this hand it looks to me like youre setting up a turn bluff-raise with that flop call? considering that utg is a good player who could probably lay down a pp in this spot to a delayed raise from you into two players, then i like the play. i actually use this play a lot myself, and gain a ton of pots with it.

the more i think about it, the more i love this play cause of the huge amount of pots it can pick up on a total bluff. obviously, its incredibly hard to the bettor to call a turn raise here without an A if hes a decent player.
nice play, just wish it worked out.

sthief09 · #4 03-04-2005, 08:40 PM

congratulations

yucky flop call

fnord_too · #5 03-04-2005, 10:00 PM

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when i see this hand it looks to me like youre setting up a turn bluff-raise with that flop call? considering that utg is a good player who could probably lay down a pp in this spot to a delayed raise from you into two players, then i like the play. i actually use this play a lot myself, and gain a ton of pots with it.

the more i think about it, the more i love this play cause of the huge amount of pots it can pick up on a total bluff. obviously, its incredibly hard to the bettor to call a turn raise here without an A if hes a decent player.
nice play, just wish it worked out.

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When he checks the turn though, I have to think he is going for a check raise or a cheap showdown. What kind of hand could he check fold after this action?

fnord_too · #6 03-04-2005, 10:03 PM

After we folded out UTG showed his hand, AQ. Odd hand to limp reraise with, I guess he was counting on the maniac to raise?

Nate tha' Great · #7 03-05-2005, 11:55 AM

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After we folded out UTG showed his hand, AQ. Odd hand to limp reraise with, I guess he was counting on the maniac to raise?

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Or counting on someone not to trust him and to overcall his flop bet with king-high?