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bad beat or bad play?
Two Hands with comments below...
Seat 1: aevn4 ($90 in chips) Seat 2: Big Tuna ($142 in chips) Seat 3: Bubbaloo ($76 in chips) Seat 4: Thithi ($116 in chips) Seat 5: Bubblez ($204 in chips) Seat 6: thesparc ($98 in chips) Seat 7: dickd ($26 in chips) Seat 8: jiffyjeff ($42 in chips) Seat 9: jandeb ($171 in chips) Seat 10: dead man ($493 in chips) dead man: Post Small Blind ($1) aevn4 : Post Big Blind ($2) Dealing... Dealt to thesparc [ Td ] Dealt to thesparc [ Th ] Big Tuna: Fold Bubbaloo: Fold Thithi : Fold Bubblez : Fold thesparc: Raise ($4) dickd : Fold jiffyjeff: Call ($4) jandeb : Fold dead man: Fold aevn4 : Fold *** FLOP *** : [ 2d Tc 5d ] thesparc: Bet ($2) jiffyjeff: Call ($2) *** TURN *** : [ 2d Tc 5d ] [ 4d ] thesparc: Bet ($4) jiffyjeff: Call ($4) *** RIVER *** : [ 2d Tc 5d 4d ] [ Qs ] thesparc: Bet ($4) jiffyjeff: Raise ($8) thesparc: Raise ($8) jiffyjeff: Raise ($8) thesparc: Call ($4) *** SUMMARY *** Pot: $53 | Rake: $2 Board: [ 2d Tc 5d 4d Qs ] aevn4 lost $2 (folded) Big Tuna didn't bet (folded) Bubbaloo didn't bet (folded) Thithi didn't bet (folded) Bubblez didn't bet (folded) thesparc lost $26 (showed hand) [ Td Th ] (three of a kind, tens) dickd didn't bet (folded) jiffyjeff bet $26, collected $53, net +$27 (showed hand) [ 3d Kd ] (a flush, king high) jandeb didn't bet (folded) dead man lost $1 (folded) Seat 1: thesparc ($98 in chips) Seat 2: coachcat ($29 in chips) Seat 3: purehellmuth ($161 in chips) Seat 4: sully76psu ($77 in chips) Seat 5: studio 54 ($180 in chips) Seat 7: Jeffer ($305 in chips) Seat 8: paramon ($14 in chips) Seat 9: 98530KST ($354 in chips) Seat 10: mariana ($48 in chips) paramon : Post Small Blind ($1) 98530KST: Post Big Blind ($2) Dealing... Dealt to thesparc [ Jh ] Dealt to thesparc [ Jd ] mariana : Fold thesparc: Raise ($4) coachcat: Fold purehellmuth: Fold sully76psu: Fold studio 54: Fold Jeffer : Fold paramon : Call ($3) 98530KST: Call ($2) *** FLOP *** : [ 7h 5h 3c ] paramon : Check 98530KST: Bet ($2) thesparc: Raise ($4) paramon : Fold 98530KST: Call ($2) *** TURN *** : [ 7h 5h 3c ] [ 8s ] 98530KST: Check thesparc: Bet ($4) 98530KST: Raise ($8) thesparc: Call ($4) *** RIVER *** : [ 7h 5h 3c 8s ] [ 2s ] 98530KST: Bet ($4) thesparc: Call ($4) *** SUMMARY *** Pot: $42 | Rake: $2 Board: [ 7h 5h 3c 8s 2s ] thesparc lost $20 (showed hand) [ Jh Jd ] (a pair of jacks) coachcat didn't bet (folded) purehellmuth didn't bet (folded) sully76psu didn't bet (folded) studio 54 didn't bet (folded) jjason didn't bet Jeffer didn't bet (folded) paramon lost $4 (folded) 98530KST bet $20, collected $42, net +$22 (showed hand) [ 7s 8h ] (two pair, eights and sevens) mariana didn't bet (folded) ======================= First hand I reraised the river thinking there was a better chance of him having AQ than the flush. (calling two cold w/ a drawing hand when there have been no other callers is bad, no?) Was I overly optimistic and cost myself 2 BBs? The second hand was a bit more tricky. The other player in the hand is good, definately better than this skill level (He plays all the limits up to 20/40 on PP). I'm thinking maybe I should have folded to his turn check-raise. However, my thinking is that he might do that with several hands which I still beat (86, 76, A8, A7) and I thought the chances of him having 46 for the made straight were pretty slim. Again, was this too loose of a call? |
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Re: bad beat or bad play?
Oh, a quick question re: posting etiquette. Is it frowned upon to post entire online hand histories?
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Re: bad beat or bad play?
that's life of low limit games where suckout happens quite often...
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Re: bad beat or bad play?
1) It was suggested to me when I started posting that I should clean up the hand histories and post them in a more "text" fashion. It's up to you, some people don't like to read them in the manner you have posted them.
2) First hand was terribly overplayed on the river I think, but I do believe strongly in trusting your reads, so if you considered the flush, and decided he didn't have it, then it's the right play, and it was a bad read this time. @nd hand you played as well as you could. |
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Re: bad beat or bad play?
Some people seem to have a problem with it, but I don't mind. The way I see it, the people who complain about it aren't going to give their best effort to help you either way, since they are too lazy to read hand histories.
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Re: bad beat or bad play?
hand 1: You caught a tough break with the guy making his flush. However, you compounded the problem by 3-betting the river. If someone raises me on the river, I need to be very certain of my read to come over the top of 'em.
hand 2: Another tough break, but I think you played it fine. Maybe I'm too tight in the blinds, but do y'all regularly play 87o against a non-steal raise getting 5:1 on your call? I rarely do. |
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Re: bad beat or bad play?
Since the poster is the one soliciting the help, wouldn't it follow that they should be less lazy? I for one don't pay as much attention to hands in this format. I think the narrative style lends itself better to following the action, with seat assignments ("the cut-off raised"), etc.. I know there are others like me. I think if people want your posts to be read by a big audience they should clean them up.
KJS |
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