AA UTG - too weak tight?

Rooger · #1 12-19-2005, 08:45 PM

I had raised the two hands before this one, but didn't bet the flop, as I missed and was out of position against 2 callers.
Is it too weak-tight to check-fold the turn? I think I'm drawing quite dead now, and I'd hate to get a call when I'm OOP.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($107.25)
MP ($145.22)
CO ($88.35)
Button ($43)
SB ($142.70)
BB ($105.49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds.

Flop: ($13.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $11, MP calls $11, CO folds.

Turn: ($35.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50.50

EMcWilliams · #2 12-19-2005, 08:47 PM

the only realistic hand you are still beating is AK...fold here.

#3 12-19-2005, 10:05 PM

tough laydown but i think its the right move - all those damn broadways ruined your overpair [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

that's a shame

Maulik · #4 12-19-2005, 10:11 PM

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I had raised the two hands before this one, but didn't bet the flop, as I missed and was out of position against 2 callers.

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Roger,
What was this hand you're mentioning? Can you post it?

Maulik · #5 12-19-2005, 10:12 PM

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the only realistic hand you are still beating is AK...fold here.

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Nice hand.

gol4pro · #6 12-19-2005, 10:32 PM

I don't think this is nitty at all. You could easily be drawing dead, and villian likely has 2 pair or better.

Only hand you beat is AK, and I think he reraises preflop.

Maulik · #7 12-19-2005, 11:50 PM

gol4pro,

I don't think AKo re-raises PF. JJ-AA, sure.

Rooger · #8 12-20-2005, 01:04 PM

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Roger,
What was this hand you're mentioning? Can you post it?

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First one:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($100.40)
Button ($149.22)
SB ($99.35)
BB ($48)
UTG ($131.50)
MP ($105.49)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7.

Turn: ($23) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($23) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: $23

SB shows A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and I take down the pot.

Second hand:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($111.25)
CO ($149.22)
Button ($88.35)
SB ($47)
BB ($131.50)
UTG ($105.49)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($16) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $15.2, Hero folds, CO folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: $31.20

The hands were not exactly as I remembered, only 1 after me on the second one - but with the many callers I got with my raise, and the calldown on the first hand, I didn't want to continuation bet the second.

Rooger · #9 12-20-2005, 01:08 PM

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gol4pro,

I don't think AKo re-raises PF. JJ-AA, sure.

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I have one AKo hand from him in PT - he limped that UTG+1 (that was played later than these hands though), so a reraise is not certain at all.
His stats are around 50/15, but that was unknown at the time of the hand.