All-in with pocket 6's

Toopskees · #1 02-20-2005, 04:07 PM

Down to 7 players in a 3-table SNG. The first 3 bust-outs at the final table happened in short order, and so I didn't have much of a chance to get any reads on the BB. What do you think here? All-in or fold? My thinking: I was favored over anything except a higher pair.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t2767)
MP2 (t6811)
CO (t3112)
Button (t2883)
SB (t6445)
BB (t5622)
UTG (t2360)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t600, 4 folds, BB raises to t1800, Hero raises all-in to t2767, BB calls t967.

Flop: (t3517) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t3517) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t3517) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t3517

JohnG · #2 02-20-2005, 04:33 PM

Raise allin or fold rather than making the initial mini raise. I would lean towards allin being the default play here.

Once you raise the minimum and get re-raised, I would lean towards folding in general. Opponent is committed to calling the allin, and you're likely either a big dog or small fav. I would need 2-1 on my money to play on in that case. The fact he just tripled the total bet rather than moved you in suggests he wants your action. If you strongly put him on just 2 overcards, and there may be a good case for that here, then move allin.

Dead · #3 02-20-2005, 04:34 PM

I would have gone all in instead of just raising with the sixes. Your stack is small enough to just move in.

Dave D · #4 02-20-2005, 05:02 PM

In these kinds of tourneys there's simply no need for this raise. If you were the button, and it folded to you, and you felt like stealing against a small stack you could try it. Here however, in one of *these* tourneys you're all about trying to survive to the money and here I would have just called hoping for a set. You could seriously make it to the money by just check/folding with your stack size the way it is, even though it doesn't look like it. Especially because there's so few left. Usually it goes to 2/4 before you get down to 9, nevermind 7. MP1 is about to pay a blind, so he'll have less than you, and there's 2 other people about your size.

You want to let everyone else take themselves out at this point unless you're at 1200 or less.

You basically probably just got trapped and lost. Am I right?

Toopskees · #5 02-20-2005, 07:26 PM

Yep. BB had AK.

Dave D · #6 02-20-2005, 08:48 PM

Yeah. There's just no need to put your whole tournament on what's at best a coinflip.

Kurn, son of Mogh · #7 02-20-2005, 10:57 PM

1) There is no weaker play in poker than limit raising in NL or PL.

2) You have less than 10 BB in your stack. Thus you have only 2 courses of action preflop, All-in or fold. In this case, with 3 bigger stacks left to act, I'd likely fold 66.

3) I don't like just calling hoping for a set. That's fine when the stacks are deep. But here, putting over 10% of your stack in the pot with the intention of folding 88% of the time makes no sense.

Toopskees · #8 02-21-2005, 01:58 AM

Very logical. Thanks for your thoughts.