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Old 07-02-2005, 08:56 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Didn\'t feel right.

On the flop I was either check raising or check calling... hadn't decided yet. The turn call surprised me. I expected a raise or a fold. Just bet the river?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (5.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

River: (7.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 7.20 BB
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Old 07-02-2005, 09:00 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: Didn\'t feel right.

Your check on the flop isn't so bad...you don't want to scare him off if he's got 22-KK right off the bat. I usually bet it, because raisers hate donks. I can't see myself check/raising here, because I don't want him to leave.

I bet this river. Your kicker is live if he 3bet you with something like A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Your flop check made him think you don't have an ace here...so he'll call you down with a hand like 66-JJ or KK here. He might even call down with worse, if he thinks you split.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Didn\'t feel right.

Bet/fold. What do you put him on here? I don't think KQ is 3-betting an UTG raise nor is he often checking the flop. Villain's hand looks like KK maybe JJ.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:38 AM
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! is offline
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Default Re: Didn\'t feel right.

bet the river
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: Didn\'t feel right.

I think you have to bet/fold the river. While I have seen players 3-bet with KQ, in my opinion you are probably up against a smaller pocket pair (JJ-77). As for the flop, against an aggressive player, i often plan to check/call the flop and turn and then bet out the river. Against some-one more passive, I would rather donk bet the flop or check/raise.
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Old 07-03-2005, 05:48 AM
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! is offline
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Default Re: Didn\'t feel right.

folding the river is a bad mistake.
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Old 07-03-2005, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: Didn\'t feel right.

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checking the river is a very bad mistake.

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Betfolding is ok, bet calling is probably a little better, but maybe not in the 5/10. Close either way IMO.

-Mike
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