River line...

krishanleong · #1 05-25-2005, 11:50 PM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP folds, SB calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero thinks and does what?

No read.

Krishan

wheelz · #2 05-25-2005, 11:53 PM

close your eyes and bet

A rag ace will pay off I believe.

mungpo · #3 05-25-2005, 11:54 PM

Bets the river.

krishanleong · #4 05-26-2005, 12:04 AM

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Bets the river.

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Gimme the full line.

Krishan

wheelz · #5 05-26-2005, 12:06 AM

bet-fold?

SteveY · #6 05-26-2005, 12:12 AM

Without reads I bet and call a check raise. I think we'll see a lower two pair often enough, since there is QJ89 on the board. If we get CRed, I'd guess he has a lower two pair maybe 15-20% of the time?, definitely more than the odds we get to call the CR.

mungpo · #7 05-26-2005, 12:13 AM

Bet/fold.

Since you have no read on him, this hand is a tough one. I can't imagine him check/raising you on the river with less than two-pair or the straight.

Catt · #8 05-26-2005, 12:58 AM

I would bet and call a raise. With no preflop raises, I can see a naked A thinking he has the best hand HU often enough to offset the loses that come when he has a T. A read would really help (if he is the sort not to raise a hand like A8o against a poster and SB-complete I'd be a bit more worried, and I might be more willing to check through). In sum, I think you need to value bet this and I think if you are C/R'd you are better off calling than folding because I don't think he has a T or an A 2-pair hand often enough to fold getting 7.5:1 on the call HU.

krishanleong · #9 05-26-2005, 01:01 AM

I'm starting to wonder if all I do is post close decisions that don't matter either way cause the EV is so close. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Diverging opinions so far.

Some things to consider, many people would bet with a T. A river CR is scary. We get 8-1 odds to call a river CR. Does the average party 5/10 (I'm readless here) ever bluff check raise the river or check raise a 4 straight board with a worse hand?

Krishan

rory · #10 05-26-2005, 01:03 AM

Bet-call. Most people bet out when they hit their one card straight because they are afraid you will check behind.