Question on SSHE preflop suggestions

NAU_Player · #1 03-21-2005, 03:09 AM

on page 82 of SSHE is the starting hand chart for loose games. It says to play KQs in EP facing a raise and a reraise.

On face, this advice doesnt seem to be +EV. Could someone tell me why it is?

Shillx · #2 03-21-2005, 03:13 AM

It must be a mistake. When UTG raises and UTG+1 3-bets you get the hell out of dodge if you are next to speak. When 5 people have already coldcalled then I can see calling three cold but not straight away. Even otherwise loose players will tighten up an appreciable amount in this spot.

Brad

Entity · #3 03-21-2005, 03:17 AM

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It says to play KQs in EP facing a raise and a reraise.

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Hmm. Just reread it, and you're right. I dunno. I'm folding.

Rob

Shillx · #4 03-21-2005, 03:20 AM

No it says to play AJs and KQs against a raise and a reraise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

NAU_Player · #5 03-21-2005, 03:20 AM

Do we have different editions? Mine clearly says against a raise and a reraise that KQs is a playable hand from EP.

SteveL91 · #6 03-21-2005, 03:22 AM

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No it says to play AJs and KQs against a raise and a reraise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I suspect that it's predicated on the assumption that 6-8 players will see the flop regardless of the pf action.

Entity · #7 03-21-2005, 03:25 AM

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Do we have different editions? Mine clearly says against a raise and a reraise that KQs is a playable hand from EP.

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Yeah, you're right. I don't like the advice, though. Then again, I've rarely played in a game like this.

Rob

KnickNut3 · #8 03-21-2005, 03:36 AM

I agree. I'd never see myself cold-calling 3 bets PF. Reraise with AA (possibly AKs or KK and AK if the raisers are LAG), otherwise fold.

Entity · #9 03-21-2005, 03:38 AM

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I agree. I'd never see myself cold-calling 3 bets PF. Reraise with AA (possibly AKs or KK and AK if the raisers are LAG), otherwise fold.

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I'd coldcall with AK and JJ if the raisers are unknown. I'd cap with QQ and AKs. Sometimes I might coldcall with TT.

Rob

Siegmund · #10 03-21-2005, 04:44 AM

Are you sure it's talking about calling 3 cold? "Playing from EP facing a raise and reraise" sounds to me like you have already limped and it's two more back to you.

Don't have my copy handy, so can't really comment with any authority.