5-10NL on party, question on a hand

Unvme · #1 05-07-2005, 07:14 PM

Im in the BB with Jd Qd. UTG raises to 35 and the table folds to me. I call 25 to see a flop. Yes I am out of position and yes I am getting dominated by just about any hands he raises with UTG, but for 25 Im seeing a flop to try and crack his hand. We both had about 1200 to start the hand.

The flop is 8c 9c Td.

I flopped the blade.

I check to him, he bets 65, I make it 150.

turn is 8d.

I now have a str with a gutshot straight flush draw. I dont really put him on 10s or 9s raising UTG, especially when he just flat called my raise on the flop.

So I bet 350 on the turn, he calls.

The river is the Ad.

not the best card in the world for me, but I only thought it hurt me if he had AA.

Pot is roughly 1100. We both have around 600 left. What is your move here on the river?

AZK · #2 05-07-2005, 08:48 PM

blocking bet.

AZK · #3 05-07-2005, 08:49 PM

On 2nd thought, you are sort of committed.

Unvme · #4 05-07-2005, 08:55 PM

so you just push on the river here?

elindauer · #5 05-07-2005, 09:01 PM

Tough spot. I think you need to bet this, but I don't like moving in as it's too hard to be called by a worse hand. I'd bet, say, $200. I think JJ - KK may still call this bet, but not a bigger one.

Good luck.
Eric

querulous · #6 05-07-2005, 11:54 PM

Should AA call $350 on the turn? I think it raises or folds.

AZK · #7 05-08-2005, 12:26 AM

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so you just push on the river here?

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Meh, what hand calls?

kagame · #8 05-08-2005, 01:17 AM

maybe try to sell a desperation bluff all in

seriously what IS calling that you have beat?

but if you value bet and get raised youre almost surely beaten

maybe check call is best

thabadguy · #9 05-08-2005, 01:35 AM

i like check call here or smallish bet ~200, if raised, throw it away.

creedofhubris · #10 05-08-2005, 01:44 AM

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Im in the BB with Jd Qd. UTG raises to 35 and the table folds to me. I call 25 to see a flop. Yes I am out of position and yes I am getting dominated by just about any hands he raises with UTG, but for 25 Im seeing a flop to try and crack his hand. We both had about 1200 to start the hand.

The flop is 8c 9c Td.

I flopped the blade.

I check to him, he bets 65, I make it 150.

turn is 8d.

I now have a str with a gutshot straight flush draw. I dont really put him on 10s or 9s raising UTG, especially when he just flat called my raise on the flop.

So I bet 350 on the turn, he calls.

The river is the Ad.

not the best card in the world for me, but I only thought it hurt me if he had AA.

Pot is roughly 1100. We both have around 600 left. What is your move here on the river?

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I see no point to betting this. Any blocking bet may be interpreted as "I can't beat a pair of aces", so an all-in raise by villain cannot be trusted to indicate a hand that beats you and safely folded to.

Check/call.

I think opponent has JJ-KK far more often than he has AA.

BTW, lead the flop.