Huge hand flop play

#1 10-25-2005, 08:30 AM

Enormous flop... I checked flop and turn hoping to get someone to bite... should I have bet it or just let it develop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

Button (t1520)
Hero (t1680)
BB (t1270)
UTG (t1745)
UTG+1 (t1300)
MP1 (t1460)
MP2 (t1590)
MP3 (t1465)
CO (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, 4 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t80) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks.

River: (t80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t40, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 raises to t160, Hero raises to t400, MP1 raises to t880, Hero raises to t2020, MP1 calls t560 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3540

Melchiades · #2 10-25-2005, 08:32 AM

Whatever you did, it worked. Nice riveraction.

tigerite · #3 10-25-2005, 08:32 AM

I would usually bet this flop, because people won't buy you have quads or even a 5 if you bet, and will call with their pairs (sometimes) or Kx (almost always). Then you can feign as if you were the one with the pair, and act scared of the big overcard.

YMMV though.

#4 10-25-2005, 08:33 AM

I would not bet, wait for someone to get a hand. It turned out good right so what's your problem?

Double Down · #5 10-25-2005, 08:45 AM

I would've made a small bet on the turn, like 40, for many reasons.
1. Lots of possible flush and straight draws. You obviously don't want to chase them out, but you don't want them to get it for free either, cuz if they don't hit on the river you won't get any money. The time to bleed them a little is before the river. Clubs, hearts, qj, j9, aj will all pay off a small turn bet.
2. It'll make it look like you're on a draw, so if anyone has anything by the turn, they'll raise you. Also, if the river is a blank, a bet by you might look like a bluff and that might get raised.

ChrisV · #6 10-25-2005, 10:11 AM

I'd bet the flop on a board like this... if someone has a K, id rather be leading out as I get to set the bet size. Check calling and check raising the flop will both scare them off. The other factor leading me to bet this flop is the flush draw. If someone has that, once again I want to be betting the max possible amount they will call.

Checking to the river hoping for that big score will work occasionally, but in general I don't like it. One of the problems is that often the button bluffs at the pot on the flop after nobody shows interest in it, ruining your plan.

If the flop were T55 rainbow, then I'd check. There's no draw to be calling me and there are a lot of overcards people could hit and then pay me off.

tigerite · #7 10-25-2005, 10:21 AM

I completely agree here Chris.

#8 10-25-2005, 04:17 PM

Thanks everybody, really appreciate it.

Bonafone · #9 10-25-2005, 04:23 PM

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I'd bet the flop on a board like this... if someone has a K, id rather be leading out as I get to set the bet size. Check calling and check raising the flop will both scare them off. The other factor leading me to bet this flop is the flush draw. If someone has that, once again I want to be betting the max possible amount they will call.

Checking to the river hoping for that big score will work occasionally, but in general I don't like it. One of the problems is that often the button bluffs at the pot on the flop after nobody shows interest in it, ruining your plan.

If the flop were T55 rainbow, then I'd check. There's no draw to be calling me and there are a lot of overcards people could hit and then pay me off.

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Very well put.

playtitleist · #10 10-25-2005, 04:29 PM

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I'd bet the flop

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I like it. How much?