Missed Value Raise?

arch12 · #1 08-13-2005, 04:45 AM

I feel like I should have 3-bet this river, and would like to know your thoughts. I think the flop play is also open to debate.

Reads:
Button was a tight-aggressive 17/11/2
UTG was an extreme calling station 86/2/0.36 (both reasonable sample sizes)

EDIT: I thought it was high likely Button was trying to isolate UTG and thought this might be relevant.

Party Poker (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls 6 folds Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, Button calls

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero raises, UTG folds, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls, UTG folds

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls

Final Pot: ~12BB

tyler_cracker · #2 08-13-2005, 05:32 AM

I would think a TAG with most of the hands that beat us would have let us known sooner. AA/KK/QQ probably would have capped preflop, and AA/KK/QQ/99/33 probably 3-bet the flop. I think you will see KQ a lot more often than JT. I also think your flop check-raise confused his read of your hand.

I'm not sure about the flop checkraise. You might get a free card if you want it. I like the idea of facing UTG with two cold, but i don't think you're going to get a calling station to fold any hands that you want him to fold (flush draw, A9, K9). Button is also going to be this flop an awful lot without a very big piece of it. So basically i have no idea [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].