Best site to start?

[goodfelladh]

I'm not quite ready to start playing O/8 just yet... I'm reading Tenner/Krieger, but I'm just curious as to if anybody has any suggestions on where the best micro-limit games of O/8 would. I've built my HE bankroll on Party, but have no idea concerning their O/8 games. Would Pacific or PokerStars be a better option? Thanks in advance.

[TylerD]

How big is your bankroll? $100 should be enough for Party $0.50/$1

[djcolts]

I lost $36 over the weekend at Party .5/1 trying to learn how to play O/8 - so I'd say more than $100 of bankroll.

[Ghazban]

I've played Omaha8 on Party, Stars, and Ultimate Bet, and I think Party has (no surprise) the softest games. Stars rarely even has a limit game going (more pot-limit) and UB always has a couple sharks at the 1-2, 2-4, and 3-6 tables.

As far as bankroll goes, I haven't played enough to give an accurate estimation of how much you need. I sit at the 2-4 Party tables with $100 and have never lost all of it. I get tons of action with the nuts in both directions even when I've been folding 80% of my hands due to the tendency of people to not pay any attention whatsoever to what anybody else at the table is doing. Just scooping one good-sized pot will pay for a lot of folded blinds.

[goodfelladh]

I'm figuring I'll probably put $200 wherever I decide to start my O/8 playing... so, would that be OK for the Party .5/1? That's what I started with for the .5/1 HE games on Party, so hopefully it will work.

[sammy_g]

Pacific is great for learning. The games are very loose. They offer several microlimits (smaller than .5/1). Also, they have text in the bottom-right corner telling you the rank of your high hand and low hand, which helps when you are first starting out. The first day or two you inevitably forget at some point that you have to use exactly two hole cards and misread your hand -- at least I did.

My vote is for Pacific.

Also, the Tenner/Krieger book is good, but I got a lot more out of it during my second reading once I had a few weeks of play under my belt. Some of the concepts are difficult to digest if you haven't played much Omaha/8 yet.

Good luck. Oh, and don't draw to baby flushes. That was the biggest chip burner for me as I was learning. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[L0QTiS]

I'd recommend starting at PokerStars if you want to risk the least amount of your bankroll cutting your teeth at a new game. Start at .05/.10 or .25/.50. The games are good to very good.

The .05/.10 game there at time plays the same as Party's .5/1 game anyway as there's a lot of loose raising with what some think are good hands (AAxx - JJxx, any doulde-suited, any suited ace, double-suited, etc). Like Party, the game is beatable, however I've found the swings are greater than other games I've played (even at the higher limits). Suckouts abound, but when you have a clear scooping hand you'll get paid well.

[L0QTiS]

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Also, the Tenner/Krieger book is good, but I got a lot more out of it during my second reading once I had a few weeks of play under my belt. Some of the concepts are difficult to digest if you haven't played much Omaha/8 yet.


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Tenner/Krieger recommend playing Suited Ace with any two Tencards in late position for a single bet (eg. A6sQKx). Be very careful about this play. I've gotten quite a bit more selective about employing this recommendation and believe I've plugged a major leak in my game by playing this hand too often, out of position, or in cases where the game plays for 2+ bets preflop. You may even be better off just throwing this one out altogether, although I think it is worthwhile given perfect game conditions (eg. very very loose passive game with an abundance of callers and from the last two positions only).

I don't recall the exact page, but the chart which makes recommendations as to how to continue a particular hand based on the flop texture given your hand/draw is also quite useful. Difficult to apply "as you play" but handy when looking back at hands you are reviewing at a later time.

[djcolts]

Just tonight at Party .5/1 - these are the sad stats:

340 hands - won 2% of hands, seen 20% of flops (including blinds) - won 13% of flops seen - lost 28 BBs. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Even if you don't chase - it is still tough.

[L0QTiS]

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Just tonight at Party .5/1 - these are the sad stats:

320 hands - won 2% of hands, seen 20% of flops (including blinds) - won 13% of flops seen - lost 28 BBs. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Even if you don't chase - it is still tough.

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Lately, I usually run around 25% of flops seen (+/- ~3%) so perhaps you were just running bad. Although winning only 13% of flops seen sounds like you are showing down too many non nut hands, but I can't draw too many conclusions on stats alone.

Post a few hands from the session.