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Old 03-12-2005, 05:52 PM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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First hand on the BB. No reads.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, Hero ???????
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:57 PM
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The pot is relatively small and I will likely be required to put a lot of money (size relative to the current pot) in to see a showdown. Other than top pair weak kicker, I have just a backdoor draw to a one card straight and no reads, I think I fold. I expect to have kicker troubles (even though I know my kicker will play this hand unless the 4/5 pairs)

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Old 03-12-2005, 06:03 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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[img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Ugh. When things get overlycomplicated like this, it's probably best to just fold.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:04 PM
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id fold

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Old 03-12-2005, 06:22 PM
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Why would you call this? The backdoor straight isn't worth enough, and you're probably drawing to 3 outs. Even if you aren't drawing to 3 outs you have reverse implied odds as the raiser has to be on some kind of flush or straight draw. There are lots of ways to lose this, the pot is small, and you are probably not winning right now anyway.

This is an easy fold, IMO
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:24 PM
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Fold.

Why not bet out on the flop?
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:27 PM
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Why not bet out on the flop?

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I have no idea.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:32 PM
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Fold.

Why not bet out on the flop?

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Because you have a weak hand against 6 players. How often does ace no kicker win a 6 handed pot?

Because you want to see the action before you commit your chips to this pot.

I really think this is straightforward, and I'm surprised that this is up for debate at all. A6o, when the flop has a flush draw and a straight draw, does not have what it takes to win 6 handed.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:35 PM
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Fold.

Why not bet out on the flop?

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Because about the only way you would want to continue with this hand is to check/raise a late flop bettor.

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Old 03-12-2005, 06:39 PM
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Fold.

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Yah, I agree. This fold should be pretty easy.

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Why not bet out on the flop?

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I tend to mix it up, but often will check here to

1. Get away cheap in situations like this.
2. c/r a late position bet if it will help limit the field.

Thoughts? Or is betting this flop into a field of 6 the best default line?
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