2 River non-Bet Hands

GrunchCan · #1 07-13-2005, 10:54 PM

I felt dirty not betting the river in these 2 hands. Should I have bet?

Hand 1:

My opponent here is passive post-flop, and seems to take odds he shouldn't.

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BB ($24.50)
UTG ($24.85)
UTG+1 ($24.50)
UTG+2 ($9.85)
MP1 ($26.53)
MP2 ($19.50)
MP3 ($12.75)
CO ($25.75)
Hero ($37.15)
SB ($32.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
4 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets $0.25, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB folds, MP2 calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $4.5, MP2 calls $4.50.

River: ($14) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

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Hand 2:

I felt especially dirty on this one, since ever sign pointed toward my opponent drawing to something that never came. Bet something hoping for a call here?

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MP1 ($24.75)
MP2 ($21.35)
CO ($16.65)
Button ($5.25)
SB ($31.68)
BB ($27)
Hero ($34.95)
UTG+1 ($18.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.5, UTG+1 calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($3) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.5, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB folds.

River: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

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Reef · #2 07-13-2005, 11:10 PM

hand 1, I'd wait until the turn to raise it. Put SB on flush draw. probably bet half pot on river. He might call with a lower pair.

hand 2, maybe bet 2/3 - 3/4 pot on flop. Rest looks fine

theben · #3 07-13-2005, 11:14 PM

hand1- probably on a flush draw, small chance hes on a AdJx, or a scared bottom-2 that he flopped and froze up w/ on the single suit flop. bet 1/2 pot

hand2- full pot the flop or check. on the turn, try to take a free one cause if you get called on the flop by 4-5 people, you are getting called again

soah · #4 07-13-2005, 11:36 PM

The first hand doesn't matter much because most of the time he just folds his ace high anyway. Sometimes maybe he'll have paired up on the river or something, but I think this is roughly cancelled out by the times that he has trapped you with a botched flush or set.

I have no idea what you are doing in the second hand unless I am completely misreading the board or something.

GrunchCan · #5 07-13-2005, 11:51 PM

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I have no idea what you are doing in the second hand unless I am completely misreading the board or something.

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You can safely assume that I don't know what I'm doing, either. I'm a NL rookie, came from a longer limit tenure.

On the turn on the second hand, I figured I had the best hand, and at usually the best draw. Therefore I bet half the pot.

I'm guessing this is bad. What should I have done?

vulturesrow · #6 07-14-2005, 12:09 AM

Im not sure what the problem is here with the second hand. I think you played it just fine. I am still thinking about the first one.