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View Poll Results: How will they do in the post season?
NBA champions 1 6.67%
Out in the conference semis 5 33.33%
Out in the conference finals 7 46.67%
Out in the finals 1 6.67%
Out in the first round 1 6.67%
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:48 AM
Shorty35 Shorty35 is offline
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Default A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

Looking for leaks. Too often, I am making the wrong decision in spots like this.

Should I now be playing only to get itm? or is the higher $EV move to go for it?


***** Hand History for Game 3057777284 *****
400/800 Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17531051) - Fri Nov 18 22:51:17 EST 2005
Table Table 68187 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: TallThinMan (1577)
Seat 8: pagaille (6115)
Seat 9: z32fanatic4 (1444)
Seat 10: DEADDUCKYY (864)
pagaille posts small blind (200)
z32fanatic4 posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TallThinMan [ Ad, 6s ]
DEADDUCKYY folds.
TallThinMan ?
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

I let this go since BB is about to hit the 2xBB stack. And pushing into such a big stack with weak aces make me uncomfortable. You are in much less urgency than the other two smaller stacks here.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

I think this is a clear push. Although not as bad as the others, your stack is hurting pretty bad too. The short guy doubles up and you're in trouble.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

It's a fold. Take AT instead and it would be a tough decision in which a read on bigstack would help a lot.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

If you put SNGPT on the maniac range for both SB and BB, it's a marginal push. Maniac is 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs. Personally, I think both their ranges are going to be tighter than that. So I push this unless I've read them to be wild.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

SNGPT doesn't take following hands into account. And what happens the next hand is very relevant to our hero.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

Even so. You're in lots of trouble if everyone sticks around for one more orbit. And that's completely possible. Stealing the blinds here adds a HUGE chunk to your stack. If anything, you probably have more fold equity because of shortie.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

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If you put SNGPT on the maniac range for both SB and BB, it's a marginal push. Maniac is 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs. Personally, I think both their ranges are going to be tighter than that. So I push this unless I've read them to be wild.

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I think SB might be looser than this (because of his bigstack). For BB I think this range is about right.

Freudian said the next hand is important, this is true, however you can make it part of your SNGPT calculation.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

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I think SB might be looser than this (because of his bigstack). For BB I think this range is about right.

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You really think the big stack is calling hands worse than that range? Like what? K9, JT? I can't see him calling with hands like that. My stack is big enough to do some significant damage to his lead.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: A6o on the Bubble - push or fold?

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I think SB might be looser than this (because of his bigstack). For BB I think this range is about right.

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You really think the big stack is calling hands worse than that range? Like what? K9, JT? I can't see him calling with hands like that. My stack is big enough to do some significant damage to his lead.

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I'm not sure but I feel I see it pretty often. He would pay 1377 to win 2177 - these are decent odds for K8o, 87s, Q5s etc. Also, some bigstacks like play table sherif.
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