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Old 04-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Azhrarn Azhrarn is offline
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Default Another \"I folded pocket kings on the flop\" hand

Right after I played this hand, I saw the big thread about folding pocket kings on the flop, so I had to post this. I think the fold's okay.

Early hand at a table. No reads on these villains.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

I'll just stop the hand here so as not to prejudice people's thinking. Thoughts?
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:41 PM
LaggyLou LaggyLou is offline
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Default Re: Another \"I folded pocket kings on the flop\" hand

I agree.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Another \"I folded pocket kings on the flop\" hand

Are u sure hes not betting anything else besides a J or A?

Could bet lower pp, straight draw, etc. With the flop calls all u have to worry about i think is the Ace, unless someone with a J was waiting until the turn to pop it.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: Another \"I folded pocket kings on the flop\" hand

I think you can fold this one with two callers. With one caller it would be a tough decision though.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Another \"I folded pocket kings on the flop\" hand

Sorry my post was aimed at just the villain, with 2 other callers...I can see a fold, heads up though I dont think u can fold the flop. Turn for sure if u think you are beat, but not the flop.

Either way multi-way u have two outs at most if u are beat with no re-draws.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:06 PM
Azhrarn Azhrarn is offline
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Default Re: Another \"I folded pocket kings on the flop\" hand

[ QUOTE ]
Are u sure hes not betting anything else besides a J or A?

Could bet lower pp, straight draw, etc. With the flop calls all u have to worry about i think is the Ace, unless someone with a J was waiting until the turn to pop it.

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At the time, I was thinking most 5/10 players would wait to raise a jack here, especially with the pre-flop raiser acting after them and a big fat ace on the board.

The SB might bet something else here, if he's tricky or a chronic bluffer. Which he might have been, as I said I didn't have a read. He didn't seem crazy in the few hands I witnessed. Anyway, if he's straightforward, this bet is almost always an ace.
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