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Old 08-14-2005, 03:03 AM
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Just started trying out the $22s on Stars. Here's something I'm not used to seeing.

This is about the 10th hand of the tourney, villain hasn't played any hand yet.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

CO (t1800)
Button (t970)
SB (t1520)
BB (t1320)
UTG (t2030)
UTG+1 (t1490)
Hero (t1800)
MP2 (t1160)
MP3 (t1410)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t1490</font>

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Old 08-14-2005, 03:09 AM
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Doesn't look scary to me. Big pockets usually like minireraising. In the party sit'n'gos I play it's an easy all-in.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:14 AM
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Yup. This doesn't exactly scream strength to me. I call, pretty quickly.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:15 AM
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You're probably looking at complete junk or a hand like AK. With the deeper stacks I think folding is the best option in this spot.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:19 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
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You're probably looking at complete junk or a hand like AK. With the deeper stacks I think folding is the best option in this spot.

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Isn't that kind of self-contradicting? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Okay, okay, I know.. You want to pass up SMALL edges. But this looks like a very significant edge to me.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:24 AM
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You're probably looking at complete junk or a hand like AK. With the deeper stacks I think folding is the best option in this spot.

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Isn't that kind of self-contradicting? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Okay, okay, I know.. You want to pass up SMALL edges. But this looks like a very significant edge to me.

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Yes, yes it is. Passing up at worst a 57/43 spot and at best a 80/20 chance to double up is absolutely insane. I'd say you're at least 65% here, and no one's good enough to pass that up 10-handed.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:41 AM
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This means your opponent hates money.
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Old 08-14-2005, 05:17 AM
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This means your opponent hates money.

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that made me laugh

seriously though, Ive seen people do this all the time with hands like AJ 44 and even T8s...I call
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Old 08-14-2005, 06:58 AM
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FOLD
my read on the play is that villain has AA or maybe KK.
if he has anything else he would be bluffing, but where is your read that says he might be bluffing.
I am getting a read on you that you posted this hand because you didn't want to fold QQ because people do stupid stuff although you put him on AA and KK.
you needed reassurance on your read.
Your read is very correct so... FOLD~~~ LET GO OF YOUR hand.
these fishes suck doesn't mean much to me.
you can't lay down QQ? then you suck too anyways.

it would be a different story if he doubled up before with 55 vs AK. then you would call. ( you might have a reason to believe he is just bluffing.)
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:35 AM
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FOLD
my read on the play is that villain has AA or maybe KK.
if he has anything else he would be bluffing, but where is your read that says he might be bluffing.
I am getting a read on you that you posted this hand because you didn't want to fold QQ because people do stupid stuff although you put him on AA and KK.
you needed reassurance on your read.
Your read is very correct so... FOLD~~~ LET GO OF YOUR hand.
these fishes suck doesn't mean much to me.
you can't lay down QQ? then you suck too anyways.

it would be a different story if he doubled up before with 55 vs AK. then you would call. ( you might have a reason to believe he is just bluffing.)

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With no reads, you think a push is always AA/KK?
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