not so much fun with T9s

[mr pink]

i post on the CO and dealt 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

ALL UNKNOWNS

utg folds, utg+1 raises, 1 fold, mp1 cold calls, i call, button folds, sb folds, bb 3-bets, utg+1 caps, mp1 calls 2 more cold, i call(not sure about this, probably should have dumped it right here).

4 way to the flop for 16.5 sbs

flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

bb checks, utg+1 checks, mp1 bets, i call (planning on raising a non-scary turn), bb raises, utg+1 folds, mp1 calls, i call.

turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] - 3 players - 11ish bbs

bb checks, mp1 bets, i call, bb calls.

river: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] - 3 players - 14bbs

bb bets, utg+1 raises, i fold...

[Redd]

Is the pf coldcall from an UTG+1 raise +EV?

edit: Sorry, just noticed you posted. Nice hand.

[shant]

I would fold the turn here because I don't feel good about one of my outs and I don't know if the BB is planning on check-raising again.

[mr pink]

folding crossed my mind on the turn, but i felt my 9's were good, and the non [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Ts probably were as well. i guestimated 4 outs at the time, and getting 12:1, i'm still ok with it.

[Pil Sung Do]

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folding crossed my mind on the turn, but i felt my 9's were good,

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It was capped preflop, and the BB checkraised the flop, why do you think your 9's are good?

[CallMeIshmael]

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It was capped preflop, and the BB checkraised the flop, why do you think your 9's are good?

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I'm pretty sure he meant it as outs. Like, he wins the pot if a 9 comes. Or a non-club ten.

[Pil Sung Do]

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It was capped preflop, and the BB checkraised the flop, why do you think your 9's are good?


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I'm pretty sure he meant it as outs. Like, he wins the pot if a 9 comes. Or a non-club ten.

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Oh, that makes a little more sense. I still don't like the preflop call though. Or the turn call.

[mr pink]

the preflop call is debatable yeah. but i think the turn is pretty standard, at least i hope so.

[BigFishSmallCardRoom]

Preflop, 3-bet it to eliminate the blinds.

With your line, a call with T9s is fine in a 4-way capped pot.

On the flop, raise it. You cannot wait for a non-scary card on the turn with top pair 9's. Almost any card is gonna be scary and the pot is plenty large, you want to eliminate players.

Turn: muck it. Overcard completing a flush hits the board.

[mr pink]

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Preflop, 3-bet it to eliminate the blinds.


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why do i want to eliminate the blinds with a good multiway hand?

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With your line, a call with T9s is fine in a 4-way capped pot.


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if this is true, then 3-betting preflop wouldn't make much sense.

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On the flop, raise it. You cannot wait for a non-scary card on the turn with top pair 9's. Almost any card is gonna be scary and the pot is plenty large, you want to eliminate players.


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i cannot protect my hand with a flop raise here. granted there are a lot of scary turn cards, but there are also a lot of blanks that i wouldn't mind seeing either. raising the flop isn't going to force anybody out, and is just investing more bets with a hand that is very vulnerable to a lot of turn cards.

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Turn: muck it. Overcard completing a flush hits the board.

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the pot is large enough that i have odds to draw to 2 pair (although i'm not totally sure about the turn call, i think it was right), and i'm not worried somebody has the flush just yet.

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