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Old 10-18-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default BB calls.... Is this terrible

UTG 42/25/1.5
UTG+1 Unknown
Everyone else >50/<3

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.75. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB


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Old 10-18-2005, 09:51 PM
El Tigre El Tigre is offline
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

Eh, the preflop call is marginal. With your read I think it is okay though. Why are you calling on this flop, even with your read on utg. You are only getting 10-1 from the pot, your king outs might not be good and you have 2 backdoor draws (one inside). I give you two outs at best maybe 2.5. And that is not enough. Fold the flop and move on to the next hand.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:52 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

Uh, nice hand? I don't know what to say about this. You're playing against a bunch of ridiculous LPPs, and it seems to have affected your brain. How many outs do you give yourself on the flop?
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:52 PM
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Preflop: Getting 9:1, I think it's close.

Flop: Fold. You have 1 weak overcard, the 2nd nut back door flush draw, and an ugly back door straight draw on a 2-flush board. Ugh. I give you maybe 3.5 outs. Just fold.

Since you didn't fold the flop, turn and river are fine.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:10 PM
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I thought preflop was a little loose.

On the flop.
I gave myself 1.25 K out. .75 BDSD. 1.5 BDFD. 3.5 outs.

I was getting 13:1 on the flop call.
I thought for a couple of seconds and peeled.

I was closing the action, was playing with puppets and figured my implied odds were large for the flush.

I thought it was closer than some of you are making it out to be. But that's why I posted. Fold the flop.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:13 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

DOUBLE YOU TEA EFF ARE YOU DOING ON THE FLOP

PREFLOP IS THE EZ-EST CALL EVER.

as far as implied odds go - you can't really count for much when you have to call another bet on the turn just to finish your draw by the river mate!!!!
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

Preflop is fine from an odds perspective, you just have to realize that you're in the worst position for the entire hand and factor that into the equation. I'd probably make the call as well since you have the PFR immediately to your left, making a C/R very easy if you flop a good hand/draw.

I don't call the flop. How many outs are you giving yourself? 1.5 for each backdoor draw, assuming those cards don't bring with them a flush. One of your kings may be dirty as well. I'd fold.

But nice suckout otherwise.
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Old 10-19-2005, 12:36 AM
gopnik gopnik is offline
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

looks fine.
I might have check/raised the river, but again, maybe not...
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Old 10-19-2005, 12:49 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

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I thought preflop was a little loose.

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It's an easy call. You've got perfect pot pumping position relative to the LAG. You also have a virtual button because LAG is expected to keep betting and you'll be closing the action on most rounds of betting. These are both +EV.
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Old 10-19-2005, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: BB calls.... Is this terrible

I call PF. I fold the flop and get on with the next hand. You dont have enough odds to call and you dont have decent implied odds either, you still need to call a turn bet to have a remote chance to hit the straight.
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