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Old 07-12-2005, 03:52 AM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

Empire 200NL full ring. Player A (29/6/4.5 after 34 hands) has $108, Player B (56/8/0 after 36 hands) has $97 and I have them both covered.

I get A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in EMP

UTG calls, 1 fold, I raise to $8. Player A calls. Player B calls. 5 folds and UTG calls.

Flop (4 players) is T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG checks, I bet $33. Player A calls. Player B pushes. UTG folds. I push.

Reasonable or should I have just let it go?
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:03 AM
imported_anacardo imported_anacardo is offline
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

Being laid 2:1 against a superLAG with aces is a +EV call. You're probably coinflipping at worst here.
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

I'm not loving it, but I think you're Ok here a decent amount of the time. If it was player A pushing, then I may lay the hand down, but this all depends on previous reads as well.
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Old 07-12-2005, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

Is that 0 his flop agression? Because if so that changes this a lot. You are getting rediculously good odds though, so against two pair this looks fine.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:25 AM
TreyOfLight TreyOfLight is offline
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

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Is that 0 his flop agression? Because if so that changes this a lot.

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Not in 36 hands, it doesn't.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

he didnt have JdKd did he?
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:21 PM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Player A had TT
Player B had Q2d

B took it on the river with a flush.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:38 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

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Is that 0 his flop agression? Because if so that changes this a lot.

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Not in 36 hands, it doesn't.

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If he's VPIP 56, that means he's seen 18+ hands. Never once betting or raising in 18 hands. What does that tell you?
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

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Is that 0 his flop agression? Because if so that changes this a lot.

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Not in 36 hands, it doesn't.

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If he's VPIP 56, that means he's seen 18+ hands. Never once betting or raising in 18 hands. What does that tell you?

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No that can be misleading. He may have bet all 18 hands and never once called. Since 18/0 = 0, that is what will show up as the aggression factor. You need at least one call in there to get an agression factor > 0.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Should I bother calling this flop all-in w/ AA?

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Is that 0 his flop agression? Because if so that changes this a lot.

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Not in 36 hands, it doesn't.

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If he's VPIP 56, that means he's seen 18+ hands. Never once betting or raising in 18 hands. What does that tell you?

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No that can be misleading. He may have bet all 18 hands and never once called. Since 18/0 = 0, that is what will show up as the aggression factor. You need at least one call in there to get an agression factor > 0.

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And which do you think is more likely?
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