Do you call this turn push with AA?

ericlambi · #1 10-26-2005, 01:24 AM

PP $200NL, 6 handed.

Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Effective stacks $200. One limper, Button raises to $10, Hero raises to $25. Limper calls after much deliberation. Button Folds. Flop:

K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $40 (~2/3 pot). Villain thinks for a long time and calls. Turn:

3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $60, Villain pushes fairly quickly. It is ~$60 more to call a gigantic pot . . . getting almost 6-1. I felt 99% certain I was beat here.

RED FACE · #2 10-26-2005, 01:35 AM

Yeah, I think you're beat too. Don't lose your stack w 1 pair but his quick push has me suspicious. I would love to know if he set that up w top set on flop and the long pause on flop.

#3 10-26-2005, 02:03 AM

Hmm, getting those odds I don't think I can fold

But I really really like a larger raise preflop, minimum $30

ericlambi · #4 10-26-2005, 02:05 AM

To me, top set is unreasonable here. He open-limped from 3rd position in 6-max and then passed up the opportunity to re-raise with KK . . . I've seen donks do this with KK before, but if he's that damn lucky after playing like a sped, so be it. I think my pre-flop raise was too big for 55, probably for 99 too. But you never know with these donks.

#5 10-26-2005, 02:15 AM

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I think my pre-flop raise was too big for 55, probably for 99 too

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He only had to call $15, well within the 5/10 rule

RED FACE · #6 10-26-2005, 02:17 AM

Ok. I don't play 6max; I should've said.

If you can eliminate sets w a high degree of certainty you must call imo. I'm not going to just assume the guy has a flush.

edit: esp w his pause call quick push routine.

ericlambi · #7 10-26-2005, 02:25 AM

What's the 5/10 rule?

He had limped, so it was an $18 call. After one raiser and a re-raiser . . . not knowing what the original raiser is going to do behind me . . . I muck 55 and 99 here faster than you can say fold.

#8 10-26-2005, 02:29 AM

Oh my bad, thought he was preflop raiser. Well, now it's borderline for the 5/10 rule, but probably a muck since he is not closing the action

However this is what I think, I don't know what your typical opponent thinks with a low pp

So yeah I still go to the felt here

ericlambi · #9 10-26-2005, 02:39 AM

Wanted to post the results before going to bed (in white below).

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Hero calls. River bricks. Chips are shoved to hero. Reviewing hand history shows that villain had A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

WTF?

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Lucky · #10 10-26-2005, 03:14 AM

make it at least 34 PF.
1. You're OOP
2. It looks like a resteal, he may go nuts with JJ, AK, etc
3. You narrow his range of hands.

On the end, CALL.