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Over pair on draw heavy board
Villian in superfish, but a bit quirky. 78VP$IP/34%WTSD/23%W$SD (75 hands). I'm voting good fold, just curious what others think.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP2 ($11.05) MP3 ($23.90) CO ($25) Button ($50.45) SB ($26.25) BB ($43.15) UTG ($18.56) Hero ($27.75) MP1 ($41.40) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks. Flop: ($1) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, CO calls $1, SB folds, BB calls $1. Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $6</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $13 |
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
Yeah, good fold.
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
easy fold, but why no raise pre-flop, especially with the CO poster
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
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easy fold, but why no raise pre-flop, especially with the CO poster [/ QUOTE ] Sometimes I'll raise in this particualr situation, but sometimes not. At this level I've found limping JJ's to be more profitable. If the flop is 8 high, people will call down with K8, A8 etc... also flopping trips is especially lucrative with JJ's as you'll likely flop top set and although a lot of people will pay off almost any set, JJ's is especially unexpected and profitable. Last night for instance I flopped top set against a set of ducks and a set of 99's. |
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
the thing is, he'll also call your raise with K8, and then you'll get even more money. Raise preflop.
Good fold. |
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
yeah, good fold.
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
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Last night for instance I flopped top set against a set of ducks and a set of 99's. [/ QUOTE ] congratulations, what does this have to do with whether you raise JJ pre-flop or not |
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Re: Over pair on draw heavy board
Since you limped pre-flop, good fold. A raise really would have helped define your opponent's hands. If you only play JJ for set value you are giving up some EV. A pre-flop raise allows you to represent any paint that hits the flop. A queen or king high flop isn't as scary if put in a 4-5bb raise and follow up with a half pot continuation. Also, when you hit your set with JJ, many under pairs will stick around and pay off what they think is your 'AK'.
I will limp with JJ occasionally when I know I will get action, but against a 'super fish' I am raising this pre-flop 100% of the time. Finally, while I think villain probably had a 7 in this case, I have seen fishy players with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] take a similar line trying to protect their hand. |
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