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#1
10-02-2005, 06:27 PM
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KJo CO trix and me disagree
AP 6 handed
Reads: neither BB nor Button like to fold and both are relatively retarded. I raise KJo in the CO, a complete moron (like 76/30 probably) 3 bets me on the button, an even bigger moron (like 80/10) calls two in the BB. Flop J98 two clubs (I have no club) BB checks, I? 
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#4
10-02-2005, 06:35 PM
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Re: KJo CO trix and me disagree
Given your reads I would check/raise the flop. Button seems LAG enough to autobet and BB seems passive enough to not let go of any sort of draw, so I think you should check/raise and try to get 2 bets out of both of them while you have the best of it. If the BB was more solid I'd bet out, hoping the button would raise and make it too expensive for the BB to draw to a marginal hand... but I've noticed solid players don't tend to call two more cold from the BB very often [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] , so I think most of the time you should be check/raising in spots like these.
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#5
10-02-2005, 06:36 PM
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Re: KJo CO trix and me disagree
With BB's overlay and the fact that the button's going to be 3-betting a ton of hands, I'd think about capping pf. I just like betting here hoping the BB will raise, I don't like trapping on a hand this vulnerable when any redraws I have to a bad card are going to be pretty weak.
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#7
10-02-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: KJo CO trix and me disagree
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[ QUOTE ] I think betting is best. [/ QUOTE ] Why?... Not trying to be rude here, but I came to a different conclusion and would like to hear the reasoning for betting out. [/ QUOTE ] It is more likely the BB will fold for 2SB than 1SB or make an incorrect call (assuming the LAG will raise a majority of the time)...thus offering your hand more protection. I think check raising here is bad because there are too many sketchy cards that can come on the turn and c/r'ing pretty much obligates you to lead the turn....also your hand is very vulerable and check raising doesn't protect in this situation..
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#8
10-02-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: KJo CO trix and me disagree
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[ QUOTE ] I think betting is best. [/ QUOTE ] Why?... Not trying to be rude here, but I came to a different conclusion and would like to hear the reasoning for betting out. [/ QUOTE ] because if we bet tehres a good chance button will raise and either knock out BB or force him to make what is likely an incorrect call. the problem is that BB is a retard so hes pretty much never folding, and with the pot being pretty good size, it wouldnt be very incorrect for him to call two with a guthot or mid/pair or whatever. So I think I slightly prefer CRing and pumping the smaillish equity edge that weve got. edit-the other thing I dont like about betting is that buttons range can be really wide and therefore include lots of hands that hes not gonna autoraise this flop with. and having the flop go bet/call/call would kinda suck for us.
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