Black 99 river action

trevor · #1 06-26-2005, 06:52 PM

Zero reads on opponent, have seen little from him.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($50.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($101.05)
UTG+1 ($44)
MP1 ($26.75)
MP2 ($36)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($54.45)
Hero ($46.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 calls $4.

Turn: ($13.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, UTG+1 calls $10.

River: ($33.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ?

xorbie · #2 06-26-2005, 07:03 PM

You're in trouble one of two ways. One is that he has Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and just caught it to beat you. He's probably not going to be folding. The other is if he has TT/JJ. Here he may or may not be folding, but ont he bright side if he's calling with those he may also call with 88/77.

I don't know how the UB games play, but I don't hate a push here, and I also don't hate a check behind.

AllIn3High · #3 06-26-2005, 07:04 PM

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Zero reads on opponent, have seen little from him.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($50.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($101.05)
UTG+1 ($44)
MP1 ($26.75)
MP2 ($36)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($54.45)
Hero ($46.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 calls $4.

Turn: ($13.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, UTG+1 calls $10.

River: ($33.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ?

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Check behind. I don't think he's calling with a worse hand / folding a better.

xorbie · #4 06-26-2005, 07:10 PM

So villain has magically put hero on exactly 99 and will call with TT/JJ but not with 88/77/55?

trevor · #5 06-26-2005, 08:36 PM

I am really torn here between checking behind and betting $20. The decision to value bet on the river is something I believe I need to improve on.

I think A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] X [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] calls the flop bet but not the turn unless he is a donk (very possible, little reads). A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is rarely folding the turn.

So, I'm basically going to include either A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] X [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or 22, 44-88. 10 10 is a remote possibility, JJ is not. JJ gets raised nearly 100% at UB 50-max. AA outside chance in hindsight.

Given that range it is a clear value bet and 'wanna make me puke fold' if he raises.

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I don't think he's calling with a worse hand / folding a better.

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Obviously he's not folding a better hand but I am no longer going to give opponents 'they can't call w/ a worse hand credit' any longer at 50 and 100 max. The decision making is just too poor at times. Thoughts?

Edit: Dah, I'm not folding if I value bet the river. I'll only have a few bucks left so I make the crying call there.

AllIn3High · #6 06-26-2005, 08:51 PM

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So villain has magically put hero on exactly 99 and will call with TT/JJ but not with 88/77/55?

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OK, i agree i formulated that badly.

What i meant was that i just don't see any worse hands that will call a river bet, if he's reasonable (he must be thinking hero has missed AK if he's calling down w/ a pair worse than nines and he's not calling w/ a missed flushdraw). Compared to the number of better hands we can get him to fold i don't think a river bet is a good idea.

(I hope this makes more sense?)

Snag · #7 06-26-2005, 09:23 PM

Why put yourself in a difficult situation here? It's possible this guy has a weak 4 here as well Ax [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Check behind and see the showdown cheap.

trevor · #8 06-26-2005, 09:31 PM

Thanks for the responses. While my value betting skills need to improve I think I may have been results oriented on this one. I checked behind and villian showed Presto (5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) and MHIG.